| ▲ | idiotsecant 2 days ago |
| >>Old ICE cars are basically the same as new ones. I'm not sure that's totally true. The rate of change might be lower, but new ICE vehicles have higher efficiency (directly correlating to longer EV range) and are safer, more comfortable, and quieter. I am definitely on the pro-EV side, nearly an evangelist I suppose, but ICE vehicles do improve. |
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| ▲ | seanmcdirmid 2 days ago | parent [-] |
| How are ICEs quieter than EVs? Are you talking about the artificial noise EVs put out at low speeds so they don't sneak up on people? ICEs have longer range, some of them are really fuel efficient, especially hybrids. But they drive relatively more poorly unless you opt for a sports car that is cramped and expensive. It isn't the worse thing in the world to drive an ICE, but it is noticeably less fun than driving an EV. |
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| ▲ | dare944 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > How are ICEs quieter than EVs? That wasn't the point being made. The point was that newer ICE cars are quieter than older models, and thus ICE vehicles have improved (at least to some degree) over the same period as EVs. | |
| ▲ | overfeed 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > How are ICEs quieter than EVs? Are you talking about the artificial noise EVs put out at low speeds so they don't sneak up on people? I think your second sentence answers your first. Car noise = tire noise + motor noise. EVs have very low motor noise compared to IC. EVs also tend to have better cabin dampening on average, but that likely has to do with price-band consumer expectations, and not inherent to the method of propulsion. | | |
| ▲ | seanmcdirmid 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You know you can disable that. It might be against the law though, and it isn't the EVs that demand noise, it is the society that demands them not to be silent killers. Even Hybrids have to make this noise when they are running on their electric drive trains. But let's say ICEs were made as quiet, they would be demanded to make noise as well. Also, no one has done anything about tire noise yet, so at high speeds, EVs and ICEs are about the same. | |
| ▲ | platevoltage 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | EVs are also much heavier, which contributes to lower noise as well. You've got a massively heavy battery pack between you and the road. |
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| ▲ | idiotsecant a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | None of the comparisons I made were between ICE and EV, They're between old ICE and new ICE. |
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