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BolexNOLA 2 hours ago

>Most of the actual work to stop males from competing in women's sports,

Males who transition to female are not males. They are female/women. It is already not permissible for men to compete in women-only sports.

This became a national issue when many politicians and pundits saw a new vector to attack the trans community. We have heard it on campaign trails constantly for years now as if it’s some existential threat to the country. Your (incorrectly) characterizing it as some grassroots movement by concerned women across the nation who “simply don’t want men competing in women’s sports” is exactly what they hoped would happen over time because it gives them plausible cover.

Yes sports are a spectator event but I guarantee you not one of these people has watched women’s sports outside of exciting Olympic bids. They can’t name a single women’s soccer team in the US or a single star WNBA player. The sport is not the concern at all and we shouldn’t pretend it is.

fringol 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They are male, and retain male physiological advantage even if they undergo interventions like testosterone suppression. It's not the only route by which a male athlete with such advantage might compete in women's sport, nor is it an issue limited to the USA. This is a broader issue affecting the fairness of women's sport in competitions across the world.

For instance, all three medallists in the women's 800m at the 2016 Rio Olympics were male. They had been issued with female birth certificates by their home countries due to having underdeveloped external male genitalia - and therefore according to the rules at the time could enter as female - but they still benefited from testosterone-driven development.

World Athletics, and other sports governing bodies for other sports, have tightened their eligibility criteria in response to cases like this, and in light of evidence that male advantage is still retained even with pharmaceutical or surgical treatments. This has been an ongoing problem for much longer than US pundits have been bringing it up in relation to trans, and it's adversely affected many female athletes, from amateur leagues to international competition.

BolexNOLA an hour ago | parent [-]

> They are male

No they are not. You can debate physical advantages but I won’t indulge transphobia. If you can’t stop then I have no desire to continue this discussion.

fringol an hour ago | parent [-]

Why do you hold the belief that they are not male?

BolexNOLA an hour ago | parent [-]

It is not a belief and I am not debating this with you. You can educate yourself on the issue if you want, but we both know this is just going to become an axe grinding session here. Have a good rest of your week.

fringol 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

It is a belief, and a factually incorrect one, as any biologist would confirm to you. Humans, like all mammals, cannot change sex. Just like the earth is round, not flat.

So there's not really anything to debate on that point anyway.

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slater 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

How did we get from an article about solar farms, to your anti-trans BS?