Y'all should've pushed back far more strongly against their "security" long ago... but now the only way forward is to keep fighting.

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DaSHacka 14 hours ago | parent [-]

But they did, there's even people in this thread saying the FSF/GNU is too strict with their requirements and is akin to the "old man yelling at cloud".

What else are they supposed to do then? Start Luigi'ing people?

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shadowgovt 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Often times the problem is literally yelling at Cloud.

Cloud doesn't have an automatic philosophical match to the way the Freedoms were justified originally. The Freedoms are based on the notion that you should have the right to do what you will with hardware you own; you don't own someone else's hardware in the Cloud.

	▲	matheusmoreira 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The Freedoms are based on the notion that you should have the right to do what you will with hardware you own Then why do they keep trying to own our devices? Why do we have all this attestation nonsense designed to subvert our ability to do what we will with the hardware we own? > you don't own someone else's hardware in the Cloud Then they should keep their ownership in the cloud where it belongs. My software will talk to their software through the network boundary. All is well. Dictating what software I can or can't use on my machine to talk to their software is an invasion of my territory. It shouldn't matter whether I use their official app, my own custom client or some curl script to achieve my own ends. If they're going to try and usurp control of my machine, then I'm gonna start relativizing their "freedoms" as well.