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neilv 15 hours ago

With branding like "free software", it could have have lost the battle for hearts and minds for that reason alone, if not for all the other reasons.

Of course the public thinks "free software" is software for which you do not pay money.

And everyone immediately goes on their way with their downloads, without you getting the chance to give your hour-long spiel on "I'm glad you asked what I mean by 'free software'."

Because no one would ever ask what "free software" means, because they already know what it means.

It is the advocates who are terrible at advocacy who keep trying to give a term new meaning, and failing for a few decades to get the public to understand or pay attention.

You could even say that's the philosophical/awareness barrier, right there: people thinking in terms of free software, rather than in terms of Free Software(tm)(R).

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mixmastamyk 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I really don’t like this comment but have to admit it’s pretty damn true.

hshdhdhehd 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Thats why I like enshittification as a phrase as it attacks the bad side of things.

If you want to propagandise against the cloud the thing most average (and indeed smart and dumb also) people hate about the cloud is: the software keeps morphing. the buttons keep moving. the menu disappeared.

Lets call it shapeshifting software. Different from this morning-ware!

Confusionware!

squigz 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This touches on something I've noticed the past few years - it seems to me many advocates of most topics often do more harm than good for their cause - taking hardline positions normal people simply can't relate to, even if they do agree in theory.

Anyway, on the topic of "free" software - how might you recommend we try to frame this to be more clear to the public? I think people tried to make "libre software" a thing, but doesn't that have the exact same issue - that is, that people will misunderstand what it is?

pacifika 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s what open is meant to stand for, but Google et al have successfully caged that.

skybrian 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Back in the day, it was the X/Open group that was muddying the waters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X/Open

luxpir 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Freedom Software?

Beats Open Software because open is still ambiguous to non-technical people.

"Freedom Apps" if you truly want to talk to the masses.

fsflover 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Libre software (as in Liberty).