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exabrial 19 hours ago

Here's a dumb question, tangentially related, since they have a 10gig L2 switch mentioned... How come nobody (almost) makes L2 10gig switches? Ubiquiti has a 8port L2, that really seems to be it.

denotational 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you mean specifically as consumer products?

There are loads of 10GbE switches from Cisco/Juniper/Arista/et al.

phatfish 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I'd guess so.

The last time I was checking (which was over 5 years ago now admittedly) there were no 10GbE switch options for reasonable prices. Juniper had good 16 port options with 1GbE interfaces at not crazy prices (which I have two of).

Going to 10GbE was many multiples of the 1GbE price. They just seemed way too expensive and were not dropping.

As it goes, maxing out 1GbE is fast enough for the sort of data and IOPS I send over my LAN. So 10GbE would probably have been overkill.

jasonwatkinspdx 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The 10Gb twisted pair cable requirements can bite you also. You may be working with who knows what installed cable that can't push it reliably. Or as a DIY person you may not understand exactly what to buy or limitations on running it.

1Gb is fast enough, cheap, and basically foolproof.

Hikikomori 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Enterprise 10G SFP+ switches has been pretty cheap on eBay for longer than that. While you can plug in an rj45 SFP it's just cheaper and better to use DAC cables.

zokier 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Isn't the software (licensing) situation for second-hand enterprise switches bit iffy?

bigfatkitten 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Second hand optics and preterminated fibre are cheap now too.

denkmoon 12 hours ago | parent [-]

First hand optics and fibre are cheap too really. I just picked up some 10GBASE-SR SFPs for $25usd ea, while an equivalent copper 10GBASE-T SFP module is nearly $90.

comboy 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mikrotik has quite a few, I've been happily using CRS306 and CRS312 for some years now.

hackmiester 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you mean like most vendors have moved onto faster port speeds? Mostly you can still use the slower 10G optics and the ports will clock down even if the nominal port speed is higher.

Hikikomori 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not counting Cisco, juniper etc? Can probably get 32port 10G on eBay for cheap. There's also some on Amazon and AliExpress. And tons of white label options.