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JKCalhoun 10 hours ago

I was in a Target yesterday and saw a Samsung TV with a "warning" label on the box. Essentially: "some features not available without consent to tracking of viewing habits".

I should take a photo and post.

sroussey 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Never let your TV have access to the Internet. Almost every time someone thinks their phone is listening to them, it is really their TV with a microphone and a WiFi or Bluetooth chip to id the phones nearby.

SoftTalker 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have an older Vizio TV, was never connected to the internet but it does have wifi. Last year it started freezing up a lot, and I read that some people had resolved that problem by removing the wifi module. Since I never used it as anything but a dumb screen, I figured why not try it. I opened it up and did that, and it's been stable ever since.

EasyMark 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yeah I just bought an apple tv appliance and my nice OLED samsung tv never gets anywhere near my wifi, except the first day I got it to update the firmware. It seems stable so the firmware will probably never be updated again in this or the next lifetime.

vincnetas 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this would be express ticket to court in EU.

sejje 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The agreement, or posting the photo?

drnick1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah yes the EU, that country aggressively trying to pass encryption backdoor laws.

tavavex 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not self-contradictory at all. Proponents of Chat Control want to be able to spy on their own citizens, and have the technological wiggle room to expand their powers to collect data in the future. At the same time, they generally don't want customers to be abused by large companies that strong-arm them into increasingly lopsided contracts by moving in unison and using the average person's technical illiteracy against them. For people like us, these two things are related because we don't want every bit of our data collected, examined and studied for either tracking or profit - but for them, companies and governments operate on entirely different levels of rights and expectations.

Also, the EU isn't even remotely like "a country".

theandrewbailey an hour ago | parent [-]

> Also, the EU isn't even remotely like "a country".

The EU has a currency, parliament, elections, laws, presidents, courts, treaties, and is thinking about forming an army. That sounds an awful lot like a country to me.

tavavex 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Many multi-national organizations and alliances have some of these aspects, does that make them into countries too?

In practice, being a country isn't just about filling out some checklist. The EU neither claims to be a country, nor does any country on Earth see it as a single sovereign state. It has democratic and political processes that are similar to a country's, but its sway over member states is limited. Also, its members aren't forced to stay in the EU, unlike the individual regions that are part of your country.

And if you truly, unironically believe that the EU is a single country, what do you think of its member states? By extension of this argument, is Spain not a country? Or is Poland a country that's contained within another country, being equal and unequal in status at the same time?

EasyMark 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

different groups, different goals. They are against corps prying into your business, but government overall is pretty in favor of gaining as much power as possible for themselves.

skydhash 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have a cheap TV powered by Android. The thing takes ages to power on and off. At least, it goes to HDMI directly. My dumb TV took maybe a second to power on and power off was instant.