Remix.run Logo
themafia 17 hours ago

> too much Tom Clancy.

Isn't this is the nation that planted explosives into pagers? I think they're the ones reading too much Clancy.

> so can one of the most technologically-proficient governments.

How would you feel if China did this to your nation? Would you marvel at their proficiency or perhaps focus on the complete lack of diplomacy it displays?

yonisto 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I would feel that the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection is doing a lousy job. So he should surrender and spare us the war.

How would you feel? Insulted?

themafia 16 hours ago | parent [-]

> the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection

So you're infantilizing an entire nation to make this point?

> So he should surrender and spare us the war.

Do you have any measure on this sentiment among the population currently? If it is, as it is in so many places, that the leaders actions are detached from the will of the voters, then what should we make of this?

Should they be allowed to surrender to a _neutral_ party?

Should they be allowed to keep their state?

Is there any reason not to presume a peaceful negotiation under these terms? Is there any reason to attempt to assassinate the party trying to coordinate this?

> How would you feel? Insulted?

Violated. These are _our_ emergency broadcast services. They should be used for the intended purpose and not to force an angry political message on a powerless population.

Do you not have any good faith in yourself for this topic?

yonisto 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Your comment is all over the place, but it is very telling. You are a confused westerner. First is you feeling "violated", how is that constructive in any way? functioning adults, while they might feel violated, will search for a course of action that will remedy the situation. It can be a big thing, it can be a small thing, it can be anything in between: It can be a tiktok post about our bad enemies and ask for donation, it can searching for a gun to kill one of the enemies, it can be doing a course about network management and blocking them next time. It can also be a tiktok post about voicing the need to surrender, it can be joining the locals that rising up against the leadership, it can be collaborating with with the said enemy.

As a member of a society, that is in a war for the last 2 years, with no prospect of wining, a war the my leadership started, I know what I will choose.

One of the main reasons that this war is being drugged on is confused westerns like you, you don't really care about the suffering of the population, you just don't want the "bad guys" to win no matter the cost of lives. When will you pressure them to surrender?! how do you sleep at night? seriously?

And as measure of sentiment among the population you should watch this [0] starting about 1:40 into the interview

[0] - https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/25/middleeast/hamas-official...