Gurted – A web ecosystem introducing the gurt:// protocol

▲ Gurted – A web ecosystem introducing the gurt:// protocol(gurted.com)

34 points by redbell 16 hours ago | 21 comments

▲ rickcarlino 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I applaud the effort to devise new internet protocols (there aren't enough and we lose little by adding diversity to a monoculture).

With that being said, I think the front page of the site could do more to explain the benefits and tradeoffs of the protocol without needing to dive into the docs. A paragraph could suffice.

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zzo38computer 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Having different protocols that are useful for different purposes and adding diversity to a monoculture could be helpful, but this one doesn't seem to be that good.

It has mandatory TLS (even though I think optional TLS is better), and a mandatory HANDSHAKE command (even though TLS already has the domain name before you can connect), some arbitrary limits, and does not actually add anything that is helpful nor remove many things that should be removed.

It does use a different DNS, although I think this should be done at a different level, rather than specific to the application protocol, and it should not use JSON.

It also uses Lua instead of JavaScript (I looked at the documentation of the provided functions and of its working, and I think it isn't really much of an improvement), and adds a <postprocess> command (which can make it hard to read), etc, but not really much of an improvement.

My opinion is, I think it is not really worth much and is not very good. (There are other things some people (including myself) have done with new protocols, some of which are actually good, but some of them (such as this one) isn't really so good to me.)

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reilly3000 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m fairly sure this is in jest.

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francislavoie 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think it is. Did you look at the docs?

	▲	reilly3000 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		After I made my comment I did. I’m not so certain anymore, but given their example search query is “how to eat brick” I am inclined towards thinking it’s a protocol that celebrates farce at least.

▲ Panzerschrek an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Looks like an approach to reinvent current web standards in slightly different, but fundamentally the same way. If one wants to reinvent it, why not do it properly? Why it's TCP-based and not UDP-based? Why using slightly modified HTML instead of some other format, which is faster to process? Why using Lua and not WASM?

▲ fouc 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The youtube video[0] gives a WAY better introduction to GURT than the website does:

  "This is Gurted — an alternative to the World Wide Web with a custom protocol called GURT
  with enforced encryption, a new DNS with weird domains,
  web browser built in a game engine that doesn’t rely on Chromium,
  capable of running a Minecraft clone, Tetris,  complex UIs, all powered by HTML, CSS, and...
  Lua."

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45392233

▲ strongpigeon 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Flumi, the wayfinder of Gurted, is created in Godot - the game engine." gives strong Microservices by Krazam vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OnoxKotPQ

▲ evv 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, of course its Face Dev!

Feels silly to link to the project without linking to the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsH7AdLmUA&pp=0gcJCfYJAYcqI...

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▲ two_handfuls 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I take it this is a joke?

▲ tripdout 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

▲ efskap 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lua on the front end is cool to see. Feels like it could've easily beaten out JS on its merits if history just played out differently. The seasickness simulator on the landing page is unnecessary though.

▲ heikkilevanto 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hate the way the web site wobbles up and down for no reason. And even after scrolling down to the end of the front page, I don't have any idea why this should be a good idea, or what kind of problems it might solve. Meh!

	▲	shabbychef 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You've been gurted! zing.

▲ perilunar 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

'Gurt' has several meanings, none of them appropriate for a protocol:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gurt

	▲	fredley an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Seems gurt lush to me.
	▲	heeton 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Gurt is a colloquial synonym for “hyper” (The “h” in http).

▲ andrewmcwatters 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Uh. The word sounds like... not quite an audible onomatopoeia... but maybe a comic book one for if you stepped in dog poo.

Not sure about this one, seems like it's dead in the water with this name.

"Gurted?" I don't want to be gurted. No.

	▲	xdfgh1112 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's Bristol UK slang. Gurt lush = very nice / beautiful. Although the author appears to be Moldovan.

▲ unleaded 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]