The normalization of deviancy has reached the point where nothing matters.

How many times since 2015 has the word “unprecedented” been used in association with something he was involved in?

Scandal or world war or a new pandemic. There must be a site we can take bets on which occurs first.

"Weird demand to make considering you're defending a person (Trump) who could release the Epstein files and end this entire discussion at any time."

How do we even know he has 'files'?? Have you seen them? On top of this, the FBI was so corrupt during Trump's first term and the Biden administration, this info would have definitely been leaked to the press, if this actually existed.

My guess is that is mostly liberals, like Bill Gates (we don't really talk about this anymore. Isn't that interesting ? Someone who went to the island and was definitely on the island multiple is still supported by people in the tech industry and the same people that want to blame Trump for possibly being on the island).

The first filter is the CIA staffers and computers in the Senate, the second filter is the Senators themselves.. That leaves politically neutral leaks or a total pariah.

I know, and considering Elon used these same files as ammo against Trump only a few months ago it makes you wonder...

Not what i said, don’t care about the people involved in this, only the movement and the ideas. Dont get me wrong, i am pro-immigration, but not pro-illegal immigration.

>"I don't care if my leaders literally fuck children as long as they enact my favorite policies."

I don't know why you're downvoted because in all honesty, this is the tradeoff the American right made. Trump has been credibly accused of rape, both of an adult woman and a child.

To even remotely consider such a leader electable and not completely rebel is to affirm that raping kids is not so bad, as long as your political agendas are carried out. Tariffs, limiting immigration, etc.

So, what's the point? If your society can't protect children, the most vulnerable members of society, why not shut it all down?

This is why the ongoing swing to the right across the West will ultimately fail. They have no morals. They ultimately care about who's bribing or cajoling them at the moment. No strong principles.

That's why they'll condemn the Pakistani rape gangs (deservedly so - should be shot, if it were up to me) but condone men like Trump. They'll mourn the death of Charlie Kirk, while funding the murder of kids in Palestine. They'll try to cajole & manipulate other countries into buying from America, while putting tariffs on them. They'll complain about economic decline without having difficult conversations about cutting entitlements in places like France where pensioners earn more than median workers.

It's all but guaranteed that the Right will rise to power across the West, but when their jingoist fuel runs out, they'll ultimately fall on their faces because they spend more energy making memes about annexing Greenland, based Hyperborea, or how we're so back, than focusing on building a sustainable, honest, humble country.

Great, they can vote on it then.

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