Wonderful except that soon that phone won't work for anything official in europe because it won't pass play integrity attestation that brussels wants to be the only gateway to certification of devices.

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matheusmoreira 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah. Remote attestation, "certification" of devices in general, should be illegal. Anything short of that and computer freedom is lost, everything the word "hacker" stands for will be destroyed.

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pogue 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it possible to spoof/emulate play pass integrity somehow?

	▲	ulrikrasmussen 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No, not strong integrity, since that depends on hardware secure modules which attest that the software on the phone is signed by Google.

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M95D 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it so difficult to have a separate phone for gov & bank apps only?

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zb3 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We can't let Google get away with bundling their spyware in the name of security into a phone we must now have..

It's NOT ok that a government app (often practically mandatory) requires the user to accept some invasive ToS of a foreign corporation maintaining an illegal monopoly.

Requiring attestation doesn't mean Google spyware should be unremovable without breaking it, Google's business model should not be mandated by the law.

	▲	izacus 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		So is there anyone else out there attesting device firmware and ensuring they're secure?
	▲	charcircuit 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's not a law to only trust Google's attestations.

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lomase 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Difficult? Not at all, but it annoying at least.

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like_any_other 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The problem is not that it's difficult, the problem is that it makes phones that are not locked against their users commercially dead - a money losing venture for any manufacturer. Because most people simply won't bother with two phones.

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rolph 7 hours ago | parent [-]

but what if,the two phones could be packed into one?

it would be a little thicker, you would need 2 of some components.

switch between phones like switching workspace?

	▲	netsharc 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ha, a phone with a KVM (1) although without the K or M: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch Or this 90's hardware oddity that combined Mac and PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b4lYOI0GQ (skip to 8:00 to see it in action). I wonder if dual-booting is possible, with the boot-loader loading the bootloader that's been "blessed" by Google's certification priests to boot the "certified virginal" phone.

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xboxnolifes 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yes