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elric 8 hours ago

I imagine this goes beyond what most people think of when they think of "intimacy" (sex, relationships) and includes all kinds of emotional closeness and friendships. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I've noticed a decline in people's willingness to engage with other people since the covid pandemic. If we start replacing interpersonal relationships with chatbots, we're headed for dark times.

CGMthrowaway 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Intimacy in that sense is a euphemism. It's not primary meaning of the word: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intimacy

ChrisMarshallNY 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One of the by-products of the sycophancy issues, is that LLMs are infinitely patient. They’ll listen to your bullshit forever, and won’t call it out, or walk away.

I can certainly see folks getting so used to it, that they then measure all their IRL relationships by that. They could decide that “you’re not my friend,” because you don’t want to listen to them whine endlessly about their ex.

firefax 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think we kind of get this effect already with online discourse in general. People spin up and burn off nyms, and interact online in a manner they could never pull off IRL where people remember conversations/experiences. Which in turn makes them retreat further online, further warping their idea of normal conversation.

lelanthran 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> One of the by-products of the sycophancy issues, is that LLMs are infinitely patient. They’ll listen to your bullshit forever, and won’t call it out, or walk away.

So, just like professional therapists then?

mattgreenrocks 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> So, just like professional therapists then?

I know there's other responses saying the same thing, but this needs underscoring: good therapists won't put up with this forever. They should use techniques to guide your mind away from keeping you trapped. It's a slow progress with very nonlinear progression. But for those it helps, things can improve.

Eventually you realize you (and perhaps a higher power) freed yourself from your mental bondage. They showed you the path, and walked alongside you, but they weren't the ones making the changes.

ChrisMarshallNY 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No. Therapists are supposed to call it out, and interrupt rabbitholes.

From what I’ve seen of LLMs, it’s the opposite.

lelanthran 7 hours ago | parent [-]

In theory, sure. In practice therapists don't, because that patient won't be back.

All therapists give some some variation of "your problem is $SOMETHING_POSITIVE".

Never "your problem is you're too selfish" because those patients don't go back.

It's always "your problem is you're too willing to help" or "you give too much of yourself" or other similar such BS.

ChrisMarshallNY 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Good therapists don't. I know quite a few of them. They are pretty good at guiding you into seeing what an ass you are, but they make it seem like your own discovery, so the sting isn't as bad.

cindyllm 7 hours ago | parent [-]

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kibwen 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, any therapist worth their salt will absolutely call you out for bullshit, even if they try to couch it in gentle terms.