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constantcrying 7 hours ago

What is a point of Linear Algebra Tutorial which does not even attempt to properly define what a vector is?

>A vector has:

>A symbol (we might call it v, w, or even →AB in geometry).

>Components (the individual numbers, like 2 and 3 in [2, 3]).

>An arrow picture (a geometric way to see the vector as a directed line segment).

None of these are properties of all vectors. They are properties of how vectors are represented in numpy.

__MatrixMan__ 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You are quoting the lab which is all about doing stuff in numpy. Probably if you want to critique the definitions used you should switch to the book.

That said, it doesn't lead with a notion of vector that is as general as I'd like. Readers might be later surprised to find that there are vectors which are not lists of numbers. But I only looked at the first few pages so I assume the vector space axioms show up eventually.

hirako2000 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I find it very disrespectful towards a project with such popularity to contributors ratio.

It takes long hours to produce a working notebook, a synergy between concept descriptions and theorical explanations alongside code, comments of code and markdown for the theory here and there is an artistic coupled with engineering stunt you should try to accomplish yourself before criticizing. Perhaps you have, in which case a contribution as the other comment points out is the courteous thing to do.

That book must have taken months to author and is one of the best read on the subject I've ever come across.

Edit: removed incorrect fact about scalars.. they don't have a direction they have polarity.

__MatrixMan__ 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

My intention was to suggest that my parent shouldn't be so quick to criticize while acknowledging that they may have a point.

If the latter goal outshined the former, my apologies. I love stuff like this.

constantcrying 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The book is even worse: "A vector, by contrast, is an ordered collection of numbers."

This is a terrible definition and makes talking about proper linear algebra proper impossible.

tamnd 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I tried to build intuition before going into the formal definitions.

Personally, I've always liked Bourbaki's books, but they're too formal for learning - especially in linear algebra, which I see as something meant for applications rather than pure math research.

Maybe I just oversimplified things or made them feel less "math".

dvrj101 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

here you go mate, exactly what you are looking for : https://github.com/little-book-of/linear-algebra#contributin...

tamnd 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Every contribution is welcome: whether it's criticism, fixing typos, or even completely rewriting a section!

Writing this book has been a real challenge for me, since all the books I enjoy reading are very formal ones :))

Anyone here into Grothendieck's SGA or EGA? (Sorry, a bit off topic!)

canthonytucci 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is the point of a comment saying something doesn’t properly define something that doesn’t share the proper definition?

(Posted in good fun, no harm intended)

voidhorse 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And precisely this is the risk of teaching "mathematics" using a programming language. Unfortunately, I think quite a few people don't actually know the abstract mathematical definitions and use concrete implementations as definitions in their heads in the first place.

At least using a theorem prover would get you closer to doing actual maths and proving.

It's probably more accurate to say courses like these teach mechanics/calculation more than they teach the theory.