▲ | wrs a day ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The term was "excited", not "successful and effective". The excitement for Obama vs. Biden was not even close. ("Yes we can!" vs. "Let's elect our doddering but normal 80ish white guy, not the crazy 80ish white guy!") | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | jacobolus 21 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I can't disagree with that. I was initially excited (and later pretty disappointed) with Obama, especially with the amount of time he wasted trying to engage with people obviously acting in bad faith, with the way he let himself be pushed around by folks who were aligned against his ideals, and with the extent to which he disengaged after leaving office. Clinton was sadly an even bigger disappointment. I had initially very low expectations of Biden, didn't vote for him in the 2020 primary, and was quite impressed with his actual governing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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