Redox is shaping up to be the most advanced OSS alternative to Linux apart from BSDs.

samtheDamned 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I've always written this off as a fun side project for a group of people but after seeing consistent updates and improvements over the last several years I've been so impressed by how far this project has been going.

	▲	edoceo 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I feel like I read that exact quote, 25+ years ago about Linux. I admire these projects & the teams for their tenacity. Four bells! Damn the torpedoes.

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wraptile 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like MIT license will prevent this from ever becoming a linux alternative unless of course they switch to something more sane later on.

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qalmakka 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Linux didn't win because it was GPL'd, it won because it was the only real alternative back in '92. The BSDs were all caught up in the moronic SCO lawsuits of the time, otherwise we'd all be using FreeBSD or some other 386BSD variant today instead of Linux. The GPL was a nice bonus but it isn't the real secret sauce that has powered Linux's growth, it was mostly good timing.

That doesn't mean that I'd rather see some form of copyleft in place (like the MPLv2) or at least a licence with some kind of patent protection baked in (like the Apache 2.0), the X11/MIT licences are extremely weak against patent trolls

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bigstrat2003 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's nothing insane about MIT. It may not be your preference, but that's not the same as insane.

	▲	wraptile 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		other licenses being more sane doesn't imply MIT is _insane_ per se. It's just not a very sane option for cooperation and has a very real posibility of driving someone insane. Imagine working on redoxos for years with your friends and then Microsoft takes your work, rebrands it as Windows 19, completely steals all of the market from you and silences you through legal pressure without even crediting your work. All of this is very much possible and similar scenarios have happened before. MIT is for education not cooperation.
	▲	omnimus 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I am not native speaker but saying something is more sane doesn't mean the person means/thinks other option is insane (which is the extreme on the scale). It can mean both of the options might be sane (reasonable) one is just more reasonable. It might also mean both of the options are insane (unreasonable) one is just less so.

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snvzz 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You might not be aware of Genode[0].

0. https://genode.org/

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Rochus 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Genode looks interesting. As far as I understand it uses the sel4 kernel? Is it really in development since 2008?

	▲	wucke13 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It doesn't necessarily, but it can. Genode/SculptOS is kind of a microkernel OS framework, and it can use seL4 as the kernel. Here is a talk about that porting effort: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N624i4X1UDw

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NewJazz 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fuchsia?

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stevefan1999 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fuchsia, or Zicron kernel to be specific, is pretty much dead since the last layoff of Google

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laxd 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it's dead, why is it moving so much? https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+log

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SV_BubbleTime 9 hours ago | parent [-]

As of writing this, last commit 45 seconds ago. On the other hand, if you scan the names, it’s like 5 of the same people.

I agree, can’t say “dead” but it is a Google project so it’s like being born with a terminal condition.

	▲	surajrmal 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's far more active than redox and it's actually running on real consumer devices. There are more than a hundred monthly active committers on the repo you were looking at, and that's not the only repo fuchsia has. Calling it dead or prone to dying is simply not based on any objective reality.
	▲	afavour 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Right now it’s looking like 6-7 commits per hour… it’s not nothing

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NewJazz 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Aww fudge. We kooked.

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happymellon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fuchsia is literally a Google project to avoid using Linux.

Look at their other "Open Source" projects like Android to understand why they would want to ensure they would avoid GPL code. It's all about control, and appearances of OS through gaslighting by source available.

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dardeaup 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Interesting! Can you elaborate?