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| ▲ | basilgohar 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What a delightful selection of specific incidents. In just the past two weeks Israel attacked a half dozen of its neighboring countries. Israel itself is a belligerent Western colony that has been ethnically cleansing Palestine since the 1940s. It is the obligation for an occupied people to resist their occupiers, and according to the UN that is up to and includes violent resistence. The entirety of Palestine has been increasingly under occupation since Israel's inception. Countless UN resolutions highlight Israels belligerence time and again with only the US and its subservient states like Micronesia voting against the overwhelming voice of the whole rest of the world. Israel is an evil apartheid genocial settler colonial state that has brought nothing but further war and bloodshed to the region, and nothing Zionists state can change that fact. | | |
| ▲ | halflife 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Half a dozen? Let’s do inventory! Lebanon’s - hezbollah has fired rockets into Israel on oct 8th 2023
Iraq - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza
Yemen - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza
Syria - fired rockets in solidarity of Gaza
Iran - fired the largest array of ballistic missiles to Israel after Israel bombed an consulate in Syria where Hamas and hezbolla were congregating
Qatar - that’s the only country that didn’t physically attack Israel, but they did finance Hamas for the past decade, and operate a global information war against Israel via Al Jazeera | | | |
| ▲ | halflife 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You know what, I just had to do a double take because your post is so stupid. Israel brought nothing to the region? Let’s review. Israel has the highest gdp by a great margin. Israel is an important exporter of technology to the world, be it cyber tech, water tech, agriculture tech or defense tech. Israel has the highest number of startups per capita in the world. Israel has more Nobel laureates than the entire rest of the Middle East. Last olymipcs Israel won more medal than the rest of the Middle East. Palestines primary exports pretty much mounts to terrorism and sedition. So yeah, Israel is an extremely successful country, saying otherwise is either ignorance, or malicious. | | |
| ▲ | basilgohar 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel only survives as a vassal state of the US. Without US aid, political cover, and unconditional military support, they cannot exist. It is being made illegal to boycott Israel in the US, given them artificial economic advantages, and they receive a surprising amount of US government contracts especially in security and data related tech. They exploit the few remaining Palestinians for their own manual labor with unfair wages in their aparteid state. All of what you said does nothing for the region as they continue to expand their own borders by stealing more and more land from their neighbors (they recently took MORE land from Syria as the new government took shape). Their achievements are marred by their vicious genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza and increasingly genocidal behavior in the West Bank as well. Of course you'll economically prosper if you consider stealing and occupying a legitimate right of yours. They achieve all of this by bringing bloodshed and war to the region, which they call for from the US time and time again. How many times has Bibi Netanyahu gone before Congress to pull the US into another war in the Middle East? The US foots the bill to weaken their neighbors so they stand out more. That's not an economic achievement to be proud of or boasting about. They can have all the startups they want, but they have the worst human rights record of any country currently, with the largest number of condemnations in the UN of any other country but always vetoed by the US. When you don't have to worry about being judged the same as other countries, then you are free to develop your country without worry about petty things like human rights violations as long as Uncle Sam foots the security bill and sends over more contracts. Israel and those who unconditionally support it are complicit in its genocide. | | |
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| ▲ | skinkestek 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Leaving Quatar aside, because seriously that puzzles everyone including me: what half a dozen countries are you referring to? | | |
| ▲ | SilverElfin 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Somehow everyone is forgetting the Six Day War and who the aggressors were.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War Or that after they got soundly defeated, Israel was nice enough to give back a lot of their lost territory. | |
| ▲ | basilgohar 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia, Qatar and Yemen [0]. [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/10/maps-israel-has-att... | | |
| ▲ | skinkestek 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Palestine" have declared themselves to be at war with Israel. Syria is at war with Israel since decades. Lebanon has been shooting rockets at Israel and preparing ground attacks. Yemen (or rather the Houtis) keep firing at Israel. Are these the examples you want to show about Israel being bad? Edit: Tunisia hasn't been attacked. The influencer convoy was attacked by their own flare and media claimed ot was a drone until every OSINT researchers pointed out it was a flare not a drone. | | |
| ▲ | basilgohar 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Palestine has been illegally occupied by Israel since its inception. It is not AT WAR. It is resisting occupation. Israel has been the single most belligerent nation in the middle east, attacking and antagonizing their own so-called allies for its entire existence. Israel is responsible for attacking the British (King David Hotel), the US (USS Liberty), all of its neighbors, and even others more distant (Tunisia). It in their nature to antagonize their neighbors because they WANT conflict. They occupy lands that once belonged to Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. They aspire to occupy far greater regions. They are not interested in peace, only on expanding their borders. They continue to build settlements on what little land people still call Palestine. They are committing a recognized genocide in Gaza. Resisting and stopping this is not just a right, but a mandatory action according to the genocide convention. If not for the US support of Israel, it could never act with such impunity. | | |
| ▲ | SilverElfin 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > They occupy lands that once belonged to Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. They aspire to occupy far greater regions. They are not interested in peace, only on expanding their borders. They continue to build settlements on what little land people still call Palestine. Palestine is a relatively recent term. Long before that, the ancestors of today’s Jews occupied this region. We’re talking about the literal Bronze Age. The land NEVER belonged to Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, or Syria. | |
| ▲ | js212 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Great. So if you support Hamas you support everything that comes after. Actions have consequences. | | |
| ▲ | basilgohar 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | The comment is a complete non sequitur to what it's replying to. I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. |
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| ▲ | Huntsecker 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 1400 years ? it was a creation of the second world war, but anyway regarding neighbors you mean other than bombing iran, syria, yemen, lebanon I believe in all these cases israel attacked first and thats in the past 12months. I think your point was meant to be more that Israel has a right to defend its self and I think most people and countries would back Israel in that right if the response had been proportionate. instead theyve killed record numbers of journalists(worst in history https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactiv...), 70% of the dead are women and children (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo), more than a thousand are dead due to starvation directly caused by Israel, this isn't how wars are fought. | | |
| ▲ | SilverElfin 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > it was a creation of the second world war The modern state of Israel with its present borders were a creation of the Second World War. But if you go back in time to ~1000 BC, Jewish people occupied the entire region (much broader than just Israel), and they are the only surviving indigenous people of the region. This isn’t even controversial. Virtually all historians and scholars acknowledge this because there is literal physical evidence in the buildings at Temple Mount and elsewhere, which are all dated back to that time. |
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| ▲ | Huntsecker 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 1400 years ? it was a creation of the second world war, but anyway regarding neighbors you mean other than bombing iran, syria, yemen, lebanon I believe in all these cases israel attacked first and thats in the past 12months. I think your point was meant to be more that Israel has a right to defend its self and I think most people and countries would back Israel in that right if the response had been proportionate. instead theyve killed record numbers of journalists(worst in history), 70% of the dead are women and children (tried adding links but doesnt seem to let me), more than a thousand are dead due to starvation directly caused by Israel, this isn't how wars are fought. | |
| ▲ | brendoelfrendo 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If the powerful are genociding the helpless, then the powerful are evil. It doesn't matter who hit whom first. | | |
| ▲ | skinkestek 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | The point is a conflict that the victim can choose to end anytime they want isn't a genocide, no matter how UN tries to twist one of the legal definitions into something that can be interpretated as one. | | |
| ▲ | brendoelfrendo 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Boy I would love to hear how the innocent Palestinians who are starving and whose homes have been destroyed can end this conflict at any time. | | |
| ▲ | thrownawayohman 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Maybe they should all just kill themselves? That way greater Israel can usher in a new era of peace stability to the Middle East. /s |
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