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cowpig 8 hours ago

You are thinking of "Palestinians" as a collective group, synonymous with a group of extremists who have done horrible things

Just as most of the citizens of Iran are victims of an Islamic totalitarian government, just as many Germans were victims of the fascist dictatorship that took hold of their nation, most human beings living near the southeast bit of the Levantine Sea are victims of actions outside their control.

They're collectively paying the price for horrific violence on both sides of an ugly, tragic conflict that they have no power over.

Giving those victims some sovereignty and peace would not be "rewarding" extremists, it would be taking a tiny step towards sanity.

skinkestek 8 hours ago | parent [-]

So, do we owe Germany an apology after we obliterated it to stop the nazis?

Or is it kind of logical that when you vote actual genocidal maniacs into power and cheer for them as they return from murder and rape, you hide the hostages they took and refuse to do anything to stop them, then maybe you aren't completely innocent?

Fraterkes 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can you make this a bit clearer for me? Quantify it? How much hardship should someone endure to make up for voting for Hamas? Losing a home? A limb? A friend? A child?

skinkestek 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Historically you can look at Germany in 1944 and 1945 and get an idea about what people think is fair.

Hope this helps.

Fraterkes 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Why can’t you just say what you mean? Are you embarrassed?

buellerbueller 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>when you vote actual genocidal maniacs into power [with the financial backing of Netanyahu]

I think you omitted part of it.

skinkestek 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The financial backing of Netanyahu:

Not withholding UN funds that Israel was tasked with distributing, right?