▲ | goku12 2 days ago | |||||||||||||
> It's hard to understand why companies can't build things to last, use real buttons, provide parts for servicing at cost, add local APIs for anything "smart", forgo any secondary income streams (eg screens showing ads), and still make a profit. It isn't that hard to understand. They can. They just choose not to, because success isn't defined by profits anymore. It's now defined by profit growth. The only ethical way to achieve that is to capture more market through relentless innovation and diversification. But that's impractical in a large corporation due to creeping inefficiency - it's a negative feedback loop. So they try the alternatives like: a. seek rent on products they've already sold, even if there's no reason for it to be under a subscription (eg: heated car seats), b. deliberately shortening the life of products (planned obsolescence), so that the consumer is forced to upgrade frequently c. kill the concept of repair and reuse, forcing the consumer to spend even more frequently d. sell your attention or data to interested third parties (ads) e. gatekeep advanced or sometimes even basic access to your devices behind a paywall f. and more. Remember how HP's CEO said that those customers who don't take their subscription services are 'bad investments'? That's their attitude towards consumers now. We're no longer their esteemed customers. We're just cash cows for them to squeeze ever more tightly for our every last penny and drops of blood. To summarize all the above in two words - 'insatiable greed'. But what worries me is how far they'll take it. What next? Washing machines that will hold your clothes hostage until you wire them a service fee? Lock you out of your home amenities like AC and power supply if they think yourey a racist? (This has happened already.) Robotic vacuum cleaners that follow you around and record you to recommend the number of contraceptives you should stock at home? Or mandatory heated toilet seats that will test your body wastes so that medical insurance companies can decide your premium? | ||||||||||||||
▲ | southernplaces7 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
An even bigger underlying problem is that people keep buying into and buying all this garbage, instead of rejecting it en masse through purchases of older, second-hand products or new products among the brands (admittedly less and less out there) that don't do these kinds of things. Neither choice is exceptionally hard, but a vast percentage of the consumer market just keeps subjecting itself to being treated like this even when alternatives exist. I've managed to live more than 20 years as an adult in his own home without ever buying a brain-fuckingly hostile consumer product for my home. It's truly not hard to do, or even expensive. Companies may not care about individual consumers who don't buy again, but only as long as there aren't enough of them to harm your bottom line. Once that changes, they do start giving a shit, because you can't simply forever extract rent from a shrinking pool of people who still tolerate your shit and still grow, no matter how much you squeeze. | ||||||||||||||
▲ | oliwarner 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> It isn't that hard to understand. They can. What's hard to to understand is how we allow them. How the market hasn't seen an opening; why someone else hasn't started making machines to fill these niches. There are so many pro-consumer ideas (I've only listed a few) that a company could seize upon to market themselves. And unlike pocket consumer-electronics, there's little barrier to entry. You don't need to reinvent anything (quite the opposite). | ||||||||||||||
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▲ | red_rech a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
> To summarize all the above in two words - 'insatiable greed'. But what worries me is how far they'll take it. Neo feudalism. They’ve laid it out quite explicitly several times in the last few years |