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bitmasher9 12 hours ago

Being arrested and convicted of a crime is a much higher bar than what is required to ban somebody.

I absolutely want private companies to curate their community of users. This is actively happening, and for some content and jurisdictions it is legally required to happen. If you get a strong signal that someone is a bad actor in your community you should remove them.

paxys 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is the "strong signal"? It takes three clicks to report anyone for anything.

tredre3 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I agree, even a handful of reports in a short period could have been orchestrated as a payback.

However surely you could agree that there is a reasonable line somewhere.

If, over the course of several months, multiple people with seemingly no connection to each other report the same problematic person, then is there ANY reason to not issue a ban?

handoflixue 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I feel like "just issue a ban" trivializes the complexity of this: banning one account does basically nothing, and they can just create a new account. Multiple people often have the same name, so you can't just ban everyone with that name. It's trivial to take new pictures, etc..

That leaves, what, asking a private company to do facial recognition scans on all new users? Requiring them to present official government ID ala the recent EU laws?

bitmasher9 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Honestly I’d prefer a dating app that checks identity and prohibits duplicate accounts

paxys 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If your safety system is "we'll have to wait till this person rapes several women over the course of many months" then it is meaningless to begin with. And they can then create another profile in seconds on any of the dozens of other apps out there. So no one is safer.

The only reasonable line is - act on the first report (and every single other report), and work closely with the police. But if the victim doesn't want to involve the police then what can you even do?

mothballed 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Best I can do is act on it and eat a massive defamation lawsuit. If you think the $1 Billion Alex Jones was ordered to pay for saying parents lied about dead kids was a lot, imagine how big it would be if someone accused or insinuated a bunch of people of being rapists based on unvetted reports.

pkaeding 6 hours ago | parent [-]

They don't need to make the ban public. But not stating publicly that a person did something, they cannot have defamed that person.

prmph 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder about these kind of crime sprees. It the person wishing to be arrested or something?

A cardiologist life is not usually falling apart. so I wonder why this sort of madness would be a thing. Are they thinking nobody would believe the women?

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biophysboy 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Multiple reports from multiple users? The linked article starts with this.

sugarpimpdorsey 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You make the assumption that people aren't vengeful or liars. They are. Social media elicits the absolute worst human behavior imaginable.

> I absolutely want private companies to curate their community of users

This has been tried many times and proven to fail. You end up with echo chambers like lobsters and cesspools of the deranged like BlueSky. Yes, there are decent people on BS but not enough to offset the mass-reporting ban brigades. If you join there and have been deemed an undesirable you will be banned before you can utter a word.

dsr_ 12 hours ago | parent [-]

If everybody you meet is a jerk, maybe it's not them.

BeetleB 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cliques are a thing, and it's often the case that the clique is the one with the jerks.

dsr_ 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, but "sugarpimpdorsey" says that "echo chambers like lobsters and cesspools of the deranged like BlueSky" ban him.

Is it your contention that lobsters and bluesky are run by the same or allied cliques? Perhaps it is more likely that someone who chooses that username might repeatedly act in ways which confirm to them that everyone else is a jerk?

surgical_fire 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe everybody sucks. All people are garbage people.

"Misanthropes of the world... Keep yourselves apart! Because, fuck you."