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bruce511 9 hours ago

This falls into the endless list of "remember you voted for this". With the ever present caveat that, no, clearly not everyone did, but he got more votes than anyone else.

And it's not like this is a surprise. He campaigned with RFK. Kennedy's views on vaccines are well known. Trumps ability to do "medical" was amply demonstrated in his first term.

This is exactly what he campaigned on, and exactly what voters were presumably hoping for. They looked at the options and said, "yeah, let's have some more of this".

shermantanktop 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or maybe "let's not have more of that." In a two-party system, if things are not going well, being the party out of power provides a significant advantage. Combine that with short memories and the irrational hope that a leader might have become more stable, and that's enough for some voters.

timmg 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This falls into the endless list of "remember you voted for this".

I think, to be fair, there are only two parties. You can only vote for one "package" of policies. Maybe you are a one-issue voter or maybe you weigh all the different positions of the candidates to find the one who aligns most with you.

I don't think it is accurate to say that all the people who voted for Trump approve of any individual policies -- like this one. So they are allowed to be as upset as anyone else about this stuff.

bruce511 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll upvote you for at least laying out a coherent argument.

But you're right. A lot of voters weighed the set of policies and decided that mass deportations, suspension of due process, tarifing imports to raise domestic prices, slashing federal agencies like the EPA and CDC, muzzling free speech at universities and on TV, grifting for personal gain at every opportunity, all of which was explicitly spoken about during the campaign, was ok to get their single-issue promoted.

So yeah, lots of people voted for this. For all I know those same people think it's going just fine.

Which brings us back to, "just remember, you voted for this."

timmg 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know, man. Did Biden voters vote for high inflation and open borders? Did they vote for 50% tariffs on solar panels? I was a Biden voter and I didn't.

archagon 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

Biden did not have magic powers to preempt the runoff effects from the pandemic. (If anything, the actions of his administration helped get inflation under control by the end of his term.) And to claim the borders were “open” is just propaganda.