> Also, nothing is worse than the folks who didn’t pay up ahead of time who bug one, ‘may we switch seats so we can sit together?’

Some of us parents ask that question for your benefit, not ours. Do you want to sit next to my three-year-old?

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eadmund 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Do you want to sit next to my three-year-old?

Not particularly, no. What I want is for you to purchase the seats your family needs ahead of time, not ask me for them for free.

I know that travelling with kids is really tough. I sincerely sympathize! But it’s not a surprise that a kid needs a seat next to his parents. They know when they bought the ticket that he’ll be coming along, because they’re buying the ticket. They should select the necessary seats then.

Sure, if the airline had to move flights around then 1) they should attempt to preserve group cohesion 2) in extremis folks should negotiate. But for awhile I was getting requests from late-boarders every single time I flew. That’s not an accident: they are flying on cheap tickets and trying to get extra value. I sympathize with that too! But I pay for the value I get, and I don’t appreciate social pressure to give it away.

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thieving_magpie 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Then don't whine when you're sitting next to a 3 year old that has all the same justifications you do for sitting there. I don't appreciate social pressure to make your flight as comfortable as possible at my financial inconvenience.

In all seriousness I understand your point but I think it's worth considering that you're also applying social pressure.

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hoistbypetard 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The airline asks the age of each minor traveler when tickets are booked. The airline could perfectly well require that a kid be seated next to a caretaker. (Regardless of whether they impose an extra charge for that.)

Your gripe here is with the airline.

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ByteDrifter 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I believe every airline should offer a basic service: when minors are traveling with an adult, they should automatically be seated together. Ideally, airlines should provide a designated family seating area to avoid situations where a child ends up sitting next to a stranger.

	▲	dmoy 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This is what happens now. The proposal is to get rid of that.

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6gvONxR4sf7o 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not particularly, no. What I want is for you to purchase the seats your family needs ahead of time, not ask me for them for free.

What happened to "if you want it, then you have to pay for the privilege?" If you want to be sure you aren't next to a kid, just pay for a first class ticket, instead of making other people pay extra for your comfort. You knew your preferences when you bought the ticket, after all. Select the seat you find necessary. /s

The point being that the status quo rolls dice that make everyone unhappy, and there are options for everyone to avoid it by paying extra. Those options are priced by the people creating the situation in order to make a maximally profitable 'pay to avoid this' scenario. I always pay for my family to get together, but blame the airline for making you uncomfortable, not the family.

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vincnetas 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

:) tables have turned. Do you want to switch seats for a "small" fee :)

No, ok never mind, enjoy your flight.

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philipwhiuk 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some of us think you're just being cheap.

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hedora 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve definitely selected adjacent seats in the past, then ended up separated the day of the flight. Even if it’s a couple, it’s probably the airline’s fault.

I solved the problem by preferring southwest, but their new CEO is an a*hole, and instead of raising ticket prices $50 a seat is adding assigned seating, removing legroom, charging for bags, adding ticket change fees, etc, etc.

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lotsofpulp 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I avoid southwest because they don’t have assigned seating.

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dboreham 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Post time traveled from when they didn't. But now they do.

	▲	lotsofpulp 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Interesting, I’m sure they didn’t as recently as 4 weeks ago when I tried shopping for flights.

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FireBeyond 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Even if it’s a couple, it’s probably the airline’s fault.

Citation needed. These things happen, and the airline has some responsibility. But there's plenty of "playing dumb". Cabin crew: "You have a basic economy seat, which means you didn't get seat selection". "I didn't know!" "There's a big blue warning that pops up when you do this with a child passenger, making you acknowledge it..." "..."

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mrguyorama 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Indeed, having children should have tiny nickel and dime costs all throughout your life in a million different ways. It should be the norm that just trying to raise the next generation costs you time, energy, effort, and money just to do normal day to day things, and it should especially be harder for you because you dared to have children.

Wait, why is nobody having kids?

	▲	sfdlkj3jk342a 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Generally you will be expected to pay for the costs of your life decisions. The world has more than enough people, so we shouldn't be subsidizing having children. Imbalanced demographics can be solved in other ways.

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thieving_magpie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some of us are just trying to survive financially or couldn't care less what you think.

Tough luck then buddy. Have fun with the kids.

There has to be some kind of middle ground here, imo. Nobody wants to sit next to kids. Families don't want to be penalized financially anymore than they already are for providing a benefit to society. We don't need to further disincentivize families and further our declining birth rates. At the same time it's wildly unfair to ask people to switch seats when they've paid for them (or even if they haven't).