| ▲ | Hendrikto 3 days ago |
| > they have split the football game rights among different competitors, so that if you want to watch every game you have to spend >100€ monthly Same in Germany. > newest generations aren't giving a shit anymore about football Also the same in Germany. But I am not sure which direction the causality goes. Maybe people are less interested in football because of the shenanigans they are constantly pulling. Or maybe they try to squeeze the remaining audience because people are less interested. It may also not be related at all. |
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| ▲ | BoredPositron 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| >>Also the same in Germany. Just because you want something to be true to make your argument...doesn't make it true. Growth for memberships over the last few years are pretty strong especially in the under 16 age group with 9% yoy.[1] Attendance is also on a steady upwards trend.[2] The last EM also had new highs in viewership linear and streaming. As overall the non-linear media surrounding football is growing...[3] [1] https://www.dfb.de/news/dfb-mitgliederstatistik-mehr-schiris... [2] https://twocircles.com/gb/articles/2024-sports-attendance-ge... [3] https://www.agf.de/en/services/press/press-release/tv-bilanz... |
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| ▲ | doublerabbit 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > Attendance is also on a steady upwards trend > Professional sports in Germany attracted more fans than ever before in 2024; a trend not limited to just football. | | |
| ▲ | BoredPositron 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Come on dude it's on the same page just below the initial summary which seems to be the only thing you bothered to read. It's even big bullet pointy for the attention starved... >> German men’s football remains the most attended sport in the country by far. It is also a key driver of the overall attendance figures, with the top three professional leagues alone accounting for 46% of the growth since 2017/18. | | |
| ▲ | doublerabbit 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I'm bias. Born and raised in England, the nation of football, and I loathe football. The hooligan shenanigans we cause in other countries pisses me off. There is no respect. I got pushed on the subway the other day because of some local match. Some drunken twat thought I was someone who supported the rival opposition and nearly dragged me off the opposite escalator. I can't wait for football to die, I partake in sports too, I sword fence. While I can't vouch if it's the same for other countries where football isn't their thing. Generalizing for example Canada and Ice Hockey. But when I was in Canada coincidentally when national matches the vibe was holy different to that of Brits and football. | | |
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| ▲ | kwanbix 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most leagues face the same issue: just one to three wealthy clubs dominate, winning around 70–80% of the time, which makes the competition less exciting. The German Bundesliga is one of the starkest examples: Bayern Munich has taken 16 of the last 20 titles. |
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| ▲ | ta12653421 3 days ago | parent [-] | | haha, andy why is that? Because of ridiculous transfer rules & markets - if these would be killed, there would be much more competition, and it was that way, 20-30+ years ago.... | | |
| ▲ | kwanbix 3 days ago | parent [-] | | You can see this in most everything: 5 companies dominate IT, 3 companies dominate sodas, 3 companies dominate credit cards, etc. I think it is a byproduct of the way our current system works. |
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| ▲ | madaxe_again 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think it’s most likely that football is honestly a bit shit, and there are many better things to do for entertainment that don’t require mortgaging a kidney to watch. |
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| ▲ | NickC25 3 days ago | parent [-] | | try going to germany, where you can get a season ticket at top club for a few hundred euros. i think Bayern Munich's cheapest season ticket is like $200 at the current exchange rate. that's manageable. i've paid more than that for a single NFL game in OK-ish seats. | | |
| ▲ | pronik 3 days ago | parent [-] | | You won't get a season ticket for most clubs in your lifetime, the queues are enormous, so the price point really doesn't matter. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What pisses me off over here, is that for some strange reason, well not strange rather the whole thing that is being discussed, we hardly get any matches on the radio, whereas in the south this is a given, even in Spain. It is always some streaming service like Magenta Sport, and that's it. |
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| ▲ | wobfan 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Same in Germany. That's not right. Still expensive, but the dual abo for Sky Bundesliga + DAZN is 65€ per month.[1] 1 https://www.sky.de/pakete-produkte/sky-dazn |
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| ▲ | mschuster91 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Still doesn't give you the full Champions League. I get where the leagues came from, but the result for the customers has been worse. | |
| ▲ | Hendrikto 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That’s not enough. You also need Prime and RTL+. | |
| ▲ | ta12653421 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | 65€ for watching _only_ football/soccer, Jesus :-D |
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