Yes, we know. Internet does not work in Spain when there are football matches.

It would be more interesting to know if something is getting done about this. Other businesses must work, people must communicate, the very same Spanish state must keep working. Is there any protest with at least a slight amount of hope?

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Nyr 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Internet mostly works in Spain when there is a match: one can see traffic figures from the mayor exchange points: they are unaffected.

Big businesses are unaffected, since LaLiga will quickly reverse any block that impacts popular websites and risks triggering significant public outcry.

Most people in Spain don’t care — and many aren’t even aware of the overly broad blocks.

Cloudflare and RootedCON are challenging this in court, but it may take many years before a final outcome is reached.

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PlotCitizen 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Internet does not work in Spain when there are football matches.

There's a distinction between the above statement and the truth, which is that CloudFlare and other large CDNs do not work in Spain when there are football matches.

Yes, it's not CloudFlare's fault in this instance, since I believe CloudFlare is not being notified to take action in real time. The blocking needs to happen quickly to block access to illegal streams of a live event. My understanding is that CloudFlare is largely out of the picture when this decision is happening, and CloudFlare is only taking the blame since that's what Twitch uses, which also can't react as quickly as La Liga wants.

That being said there is a solution to this that helps protect from collateral as well as the decentralized open nature of the internet: moving away from those large CDNs

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array_key_first 3 days ago | parent [-]

I think moving away from cloudflare is not a solution because:

1. You need CDNs for reasonable web performance, especially on mobile. Hitting your dedicated server for every static asset like images is going to bring latency through the roof.

2. Many companies don't have a physical presence in Europe, but are still able to achieve adequate performance because of CDNs.

3. If everyone just moves off of cloudflare, the blocking would just increase. Nothing would be solved if even bigger ranges are blocked, and probably even more stuff would break.

	▲	PlotCitizen 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I totally agree with point number 2. Even point number 1 is reasonable. But there are many CDNs you could use, perhaps smaller ones, perhaps some that do not offer their services to streaming websites, which is arguably the reason for the blocking. Ultimately point number 3 is a prediction. I could see that happening, but I am not convinced it's set in stone that the blocking would just increase. And even if that happens, and even bigger ranges are blocked, and even more stuff breaks, perhaps more people will start to notice and put an end to this, to CloudFlare's delight.

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Telemakhos 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the very same Spanish state must keep working

“Vuelva usted mañana.”

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CaptainOfCoit 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Apparently it's not being communicated properly, or you don't actually read what you come across, because "Internet does not work in Spain when there are football matches" isn't true at all.

Large parts are blocked, yes, as collateral damage. But it doesn't seem like they're completely switching it off, as obviously then there would be huge protests, mostly because people wouldn't be able to legally watch the games then!