That's AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395, right? Lots of those boxes popping up recently, but isn't that dog slow? And I can't believe I'm saying this - but maybe RAM filled-up mac might be a better option?

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whitehexagon 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

from the .de website I see 2000eur for the 128GB, But looking at the shipping info, it sounds like it might still be shipped from .cn: ´Please ensure you can handle customs clearance and taxes yourself.´

Also it is Windows 11 which is a big No from me.

But if this is the start of the local big model capable hardware it looks quite hopeful. A 2nd hand M2 128GB studio (which I can use Asahi on) is currently ~3600eur

https://es.wallapop.com/item/mac-studio-m2-ultra-1tb-ssd-128...

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ricardobeat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, but the mac costs 3-4x more. You can get one of these 395 systems with 96GB for ~1k.

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Keyframe 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I was looking it was more like 1.6k euros, but still great price. Mac studio with M4 Max 16/40/16 with 128GB is double that. That's all within a range of "affordable". Now, if it's at least twice the speed, I don't see a reason not to. Even though my religion is against buying a mac as well.

edit, just took a look at amazon. GMKtec EVO-X2 AI, which is the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 with 128GB of RAM is 3k euros. Mac M4 Max with 16 cores and 128 gigs is 4.4k euros. Damn, Europe. If you go with M4 Max with 14 cores, but still 16 cores of "Neural engine"... ah, you can't get 128 GB of RAM then. Classic Apple :)

edit2: look at gmktec site itself. machine is 2k euros there. Damn, amazon.

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te0006 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Note that the small print on the GMKtec site says that prices do not include customs and VAT. Which seem to amount to 19% in the EU. So, almost 2,4K€.

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Keyframe an hour ago | parent [-]

There seems to be a EU shop as well, but I can't see it's without VAT, not even on checkout page. There's a 50 EUR discount code though.

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I will admit that the price difference was a big value differentiator for me since speed is not a priority ( playing with big models at a reasonable price is ).

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buyucu 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not buying a Mac. Period.