| ▲ | nradov 6 hours ago |
| Let's not waste time on idle hypotheticals and fear mongering. No propaganda campaign has ever posed an existential threat to the USA. Let us know when one arrives. |
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| ▲ | CJefferson 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Have you seen the US recently? Just in the last couple of days, the president is standing up and broadcasting clear medical lies about autism, while a large chunk of the media goes along with him. |
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| ▲ | nradov 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have seen the US recently. I'm not going to attempt to defend the President but regardless of whether he is right or wrong about autism this is hardly an existential threat to the Republic. Presidents have been wrong about many things before and that is not a valid justification for censorship. In a few years we'll have another president and he or she will be wrong about a whole different set of issues. | | |
| ▲ | CJefferson 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I hope I’m wrong, but I think America is fundamentally done, because it turns out the whole “checks and balances” system turned out to be trivial to steamroll as president, and future presidents will know that now. By done I don’t mean it won’t continue to be the worlds biggest and most important country, but I don’t expect any other country to trust America more than they have to for a 100 years or so. | | |
| ▲ | nradov 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | A lot of people thought that America was fundamentally done in 1861, and yet here we are. The recent fracturing of certain established institutional norms is a matter of some concern. But whether other countries trust us or not is of little consequence. US foreign policy has always been volatile, subject to the whims of each new administration. Our traditional allies will continue to cooperate regardless of trust (or lack thereof) because mutual interests are still broadly aligned and they have no credible alternative. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > whether other countries trust us or not is of some consequence. Not all consuming, but significant. > Our traditional allies will continue to cooperate regardless of whether they continue to include the US within that circle to the same degree, or indeed at all. Trump's tariff's have been a boon for China's global trade connections, they continue to buy soybeans, but from new partners whereas before they sourced mainly from the US. |
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| ▲ | Yeul an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's a threat to autistic people. I guess they are next in line after removing the immigrants, killing the homeless we're gassing the mentally handicapped for being a drain on society? Lots of Christian love vibes. | |
| ▲ | _DeadFred_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They are spreading this nonsense in part in order to hide from the fact that they refuse to release the Epstein files, something that seems to include a rather lot of high profile/high importance official potentially doing really bad things. It's called flooding the zone, and it is a current Republican strategy to misinform, to sow defeatism in their political opposition, default/break all of the existing systems for handling politics, with the final outcome to manipulate the next election. And they publicized this yet people like you claim to think it's non issue. |
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| ▲ | rixed 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It doesn't have to be national threat. Social media can be used by small organisations or even sufficiently motivated individuals to easily spread lies and slanders against individuals or group and it's close to impossible to prevent (I've been fighting some trolls threatening a group of friends on Facebook lately, and I can attest how much the algorithm favor hate speach over reason) |
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| ▲ | nradov 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's a non sequitur. Your personal troubles are irrelevant when it comes to public policy, social media, and the fundamental human right of free expression. While I deplore hate speech, it's existence doesn't justify censorship. |
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