https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/philosopherszone/are-... is an interview with Timothy Bayne, Professor in the School of Philosophical, Historical and Indigenous Studies at Monash University, Melbourne, and Co-Director of the Brain, Mind and Consciousness project.

It's got some very interesting takes on the question of when cognition starts and how Philosophers think about it, ideate it as a concept, with a side-journey into ascribing AI systems with consciousness.