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tensor 7 hours ago

What you think is propaganda is irrelevant. When you let people unnaturally amplify information by paying to have it forced into someone’s feed that is distorting the free flow of information.

Employees choose what you see every day you use most social media.

msandford 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Congrats! You are 99% of the way to understanding it. Now you just have to realize that "whoever is in charge" might or might not have your best interests at heart, government or private.

Anyone who has the power to deny you information absolutely has more power than those who can swamp out good information with bad. It's a subtle difference yes, but it's real.

tensor 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Banning algorithms and paid amplification is not denying you information. You can still decide for yourself who to follow, or actively look for information, actively listen to people. The difference is that it becomes your choice.

vintermann 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, this is about bringing back creators banned for (in YouTube's eyes) unwarranted beliefs stemming from distrust of political or medical authorities, and promoting such distrust. They weren't banned because of paid amplification.

I don't quite understand how the Ressa quote in the beginning of this thread justifies banning dissent for being too extreme. The algorithms are surely on YouTube and Facebook (and Ressa's!) side here, I'm sure they tried to downrank distrust-promoting content as much as they dared and had capabilities to, limited by e.g. local language capabilities and their users' active attempts to avoid automatic suppression - something everyone does these days.

vintermann an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OK, but that's an argument against advertising, and maybe against dishonest manipulation of ranking systems.

It's not an argument for banning doctors from YouTube for having the wrong opinions on public health policy.

dzhiurgis 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> distorting the free flow of information

There is no free flow of information. Never was. YouTube and FB and Google saying "oh it's the algorithm" is complete BS. It always manipulated, boosting whoever they feel fit.