> Take the core technology and just optimize, optimize, optimize for 10x the cost/efficiency. As simple as that. Super impressive.

This "just" is incorrect.

The Qwen team invented things like DeepStack https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.04334

(Also I hate this "The Chinese" thing. Do we say "The British" if it came from a DeepMind team in the UK? Or what if there are Chinese born US citizens working in Paris for Mistral?

Give credit to the Qwen team rather than a whole country. China has both great labs and mediocre labs, just like the rest of the world.)

The naming makes some sense here. It's backed by the very Chinese Alibaba and the government directly as well. It's almost a national project.

> Do we say "The British"

Yes.

The Americans do that all the time. :P

Yeah it's just weird Orientalism all over again

> Also I hate this "The Chinese" thing

to me it was positive assessment, I adore their craftsmanship and persistence in moving forward for long period of time.