so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

willahmad 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They might have dozens of reasons, but they already did what they did.

Some of the reasons could be:

- mitigation of US AI supremacy

- Commodify AI use to push forward innovation and sell platforms to run them, e.g. if iPhone wins local intelligence, it benefits China, because China is manufacturing those phones

- talent war inside China

- soften the sentiment against China in the US

- they're just awesome people

- and many more

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michaelt 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can see how it would be in China's interest to make sure there was an LLM that produced cutting edge performance in Chinese-language conversations.

And some uses of LLMs are intensely political; think of a student using an LLM to learn about the causes of the civil war. I can understand a country wanting their own LLMs for the same reason they write their own history textbooks.

By releasing the weights they they can get free volunteer help, win hearts and minds with their open approach, weaken foreign corporations, give their citizens robust performance in their native language, and exercise narrative control - all at the same time.

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bayarearefugee 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think they care about winning hearts exactly, but I do think they (correctly) realize that LLM models are racing rapidly toward being commodified and they are still going to be way ahead of us on manufacturing the hardware to run them on.

Watching the US stock market implode from the bubble generated from investors over here not realizing this is happening will be a nice bonus for them, I guess, and constantly shipping open SOTA models will speed that along.

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Keyframe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Open source is communism after all? In any case, maybe everyone realized what Zuckerberg was also saying from the start and that is that models will be more of a utility, rather than advantage.

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llllm 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

they aren’t even trying hard, it’s just that no one else is trying

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brokencode 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe they just want to see one of the biggest stock bubble pops of all time in the US.

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binary132 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Surprising this is the first time I’ve seen anyone say this out loud.

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brookst 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Because it doesn’t make sense. The reason there’s a bubble is investor belief that AI will unlock tons of value. The reason the bubble is concentrated in silicon and model providers is because investors believe they have the most leverage to monetize this new value in the short term.

If all of that stuff becomes free, the money will just move a few layers up to all of the companies whose cost structure has suddenly been cut dramatically.

There is no commoditization of expensive technology that results in a net loss of market value. It just moves around.

	▲	mmmllm 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		But the spend on AI is globally is still measured in the tens of billions? Tiny in the grand scheme of things. So what 'money' is moving up? Not revenue, and in the case of a bubble bursting, not speculative capital.

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protocolture 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I know I do

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sporkxrocket 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

China has been creating high quality cultural artifacts for thousands of years.