> content that falsely alleges that approved vaccines are dangerous and cause chronic health effects

The J & J vaccine was approved at the time, but was later banned for causing chronic health effects.

> claims that vaccines do not reduce transmission or contraction of disease

Isn't that true of the covid vaccines? Originally, the proponents claimed that getting the vaccine would stop you from getting covid entirely, but later on, they changed the goal posts to "it will reduce your symptoms of covid".

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joecool1029 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The J & J vaccine was approved at the time, but was later banned for causing chronic health effects.

That's not what happened. Authorities received rare reports of a clotting disorder and paused it for 11 days to investigate. That pause was lifted but the panic caused a crash in demand and J&J withdrew it from the market. Source: https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/06/j-fda-revokes-authori...

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WillPostForFood 13 hours ago | parent [-]

It seems like you are implying that the pause was lifted because they found nothing. That's not quite right. J&J vaccine killed 9 people, and the FDA issued restrictions on who could get it, limitations on who should get it, and warnings about the side effects.

https://www.fda.gov/media/146304/download

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joecool1029 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> It seems like you are inferring that the pause was lifted because they found nothing. That's not quite right.

I am not and my source covers this.

	▲	WillPostForFood 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Your source doesn't mention the nine deaths or the blood clotting side effect. It doesn't convey that there were legitimate, validated reasons for the pause and downgrade. "Rare reports" and "Nine Deaths" reads differently.

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2muchcoffeeman 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This highlights what’s so difficult with science communication.

Right here on what should be a technical minded forum, people don’t understand what science is or how it works. Or what risk is. And they don’t even challenge their own beliefs or are curious about how things actually work.

If the “smart” people can’t or won’t continuously incorporate new information, what are our chances?

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teamonkey 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Originally, the proponents claimed that getting the vaccine would stop you from getting covid entirely

Some people don’t understand how vaccines work, so may have claimed that, but efficacy rates were very clearly communicated. Anyone who listened in high school biology should know that’s not how they work.