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hosh 12 hours ago

The proliferation of frameworks came about from the ideas and design of Ruby on Rails. MVC and ORM had been around before web apps, but it was not consistently used in a web framework until Rails. Convention-over-configuration, “nested doll pattern”, and Rack protocol were all ideas widely ported and copied into other language platforms and frameworks.

Also, ActiveRecord gained significant capabilities with named scopes, something that isn’t as widely copied.

Finally, Ruby itself lends itself well to writing DSLs, something that Javascript and TypeScript sucks at, but sometimes I still see people try and fail.

To be fair, it is my personal opinion that there has not been anything substantially innovative since Rails 5. The features I have seen since is better done with Elixir/Phoenix, mainly because the BEAM runtime makes better concurrency primitives available.

dcrazy 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> MVC and ORM had been around before web apps, but it was not consistently used in a web framework until Rails.

WebObjects and EOF were the MVC and ORM frameworks powering Disney (Go.com) almost a decade before Rails existed.

hosh 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Were those tech open source?

A decade before Rails puts it in 1995. Do you have some resources on this? I like looking into the history of tech.

dcrazy 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They were not open source. They were essentially NeXT’s only successful product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebObjects

WebObjects was rewritten from ObjC to Java in the 2000s. EOF, the ORM layer it shared with NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, was rewritten as Core Data and released in Mac OS X Tiger.

mandevil 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

WebObjects was demo'd in 1995, and Version 1.0 was released in March 1996, by NeXT (Steve Jobs and crew). In 1997 when Apple bought NeXT and made Jobs its CEO again, it became part of Apple who open sourced it in 2006 and maintained it until 2009 (it powered iTunes, among other things).