▲ | rck 3 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This feels like the kind of popsci that's written for people who already agree with the author - there's nothing resembling an argument, or even a definition of "computation." There are nods to Church-Turing, but the leap from "every effectively calculable function is computable" to "life is a computation" is larger than anything you could fit in a book. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | seanhunter 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Reminds me of Wolfram's "Principle of Computational Equivalence"[1]. 1. Things in nature have a maximum complexity which is like computation 2. Most things get this complicated 3. Therefore most things are "computationally equivalent" 4. "For example, the workings of the human brain or the evolution of weather systems can, in principle, compute the same things as a computer. " The leap between things being in an equivalence class according to some relation and being "in principle, the same" might present difficulty if you've done any basic set theory, but that's just because you lack vision. [1] https://mathworld.wolfram.com/PrincipleofComputationalEquiva... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | failingforward 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, the article appears to be a short excerpt from a book and probably loses a lot of context because of that. I am interested in the questions raised by the author but will wait for the book to come out. The good news is that it appears the book will be open access - MIT Press seems to be encouraging this lately (at least by allowing this as an option for authors). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | lawlessone 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> there's nothing resembling an argument, or even a definition of "computation." "It's not even wrong" - Pauli | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | esafak 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is the author advancing a new argument? Has anyone read the book? A quick review suggests that the author posits that symbiogenesis is central to evolution, and artificial intelligence. This is interesting because I recall no mention of this mechanism in the current AI literature. The promise of a symbiotic relationship with artificial life sounds like a balm to people anxious about the future. It is a possibility, not a certainty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis https://publicservicesalliance.org/2025/05/24/what-is-intell... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | bgwalter 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I felt reminded of Hofstadter's Goedel/Escher/Bach mysticism that somehow everything is recursion. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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