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lowsong 6 hours ago

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schnebbau 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The linked article doesn't mention anything about skin color. Please don't stir hatred like that here.

tzs 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In this part of the article:

> That was then. Now, I wouldn't dream of it. London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.

the "no longer full of native Brits" is a link to an article on the ethnic makeup of London. The cite only makes sense as support for his argument if he means white native Brits.

berkanunal 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

reading a love letter to hitler. What? It doesn't say anything about the skin color?

> Tommy Robinson, is a British anti-Islam campaigner and one of the UK's most prominent far-right activists with a history of criminal convictions. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

mrkstu 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My goodness, people need to leave their ‘supremacist’ scarlet letters in their bags for when they’re actually earned. The Brits are just as much ‘native’ people to their lands as any aboriginal group. To want to keep their characteristic culture from being wiped out is no more supremacist than any other ethnic group doing the same.

The hypocrisy is beyond the pale.

viraptor 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He doesn't talk about culture though. He only talks about native. Like people coming from other countries can't drink tea or enjoy great British bakeoff or something. It's one of those "you know what I mean" posts with racist references.

lowsong 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are very much earned, but don't take my word for it when DHH says it himself.

> In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.

What does he mean here with that last sentence? Did he do a survey? Ask people where they were born or to self report their nationality? No. He walked through London, saw people who weren't white, and then went on his blog to complain about "non native Brits". He is explicitly talking about skin colour and implying that unless you are white you are not British. That definitionally racist.

To then go on, and praise Tommy Robinson, a far-right extremist who's spent the past decade stoking hate. The message of this article leaves no room for misunderstanding.

In DHH's own view if you are not a white "native" Brit then you should be removed. That is, by definition, a white supremacist.

smarnach 5 hours ago | parent [-]

He also links a Wikipedia article stating that more than 60 percent of Londoners were born in Britain to prove his point that only a third of Londoners are "native Brits". That doesn't leave much room for interpretation.

habinero 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh, is this the new talking point?

The Brits conquered the world and imposed their "characteristic culture" on everyone else. They don't really get to complain lol

mrkstu 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Collective guilt is problematic regardless of which direction you point the gun.

habinero 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's really telling you jumped right to "guilt". Nobody said the Brits had to feel guilty for their ancestors doing that. Just that they don't get to complain lol

jadamson 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Are Brits not guilty of conquering the world? That would seem to be an honest reading of what you wrote.

habinero 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not only did I not use the word, you're conflating "being guilty" (others think you did something bad) and "feeling guilt" (feeling remorse for your actions).

Are you ESL? I can modulate my language if you are.

gedy 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think that term gets tossed around too much flippantly - if you've ever ran into real white supremacists they are a magnitude more scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion.

JohnBooty 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Regardless of whether or not that's the correct term for DHH....

    real white supremacists they are a magnitude more 
    scary and dangerous than DHH's dopey opinion
I would like to caution you against the use of the term "real" white supremacists.

Are you imagining a "real" white supremacist as guy who burns crosses, is covered with racist tattoos, and openly spouts slurs? Because the effective and dangerous ones are a hell of a lot more stealthy than that.

Racism in general, including white supremacy, is more accurately viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide.

gedy 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> viewed as a spectrum and not a binary racist/non-racist divide

That's exactly my point why I suggest not watering down the term white supremacy with "I hate this annoying opinion when I interpret it maximally". Calling DHH a white supremacist is silly.

habinero 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, the dopey ones are just as bad. They legitimize having bigoted opinions, and having bigoted opinions towards immigrants in an industry founded on immigrants is both short-sighted and not something anyone should support.

Nobody ever gets cancelled for actual conservative values like lower taxes and limited government. They get kicked out for being hateful.

BizarroLand 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Racism isn't boogeymen in white robes hanging people.

It's kindly old ladies whose smile disappears the instant they lock onto a brown kid in the grocery store.

It's bosses who somehow find a good reason to not give a non-white person a pay raise or time off.

It's ordinary people who feel uncomfortable when they encounter people who look different and then they act different towards them.

The grand majority of racism is invisible. It's a constant pressure on people who do not perfectly fit into the culture that reminds them that if they do not meet the mark of what that group of people expect from them then the consequences will be extreme.

When you are not white and live in a town of generically racist white people, there are countless small things that happen that continuously remind you that your presence is under surveillance and that your permission to exist peacefully in "their" space is an act of grace that you must forever be grateful for.

This is something that can be explained to anyone ad nauseum, but until they experience it for themselves it sounds like bs. It's so easy to ignore that most people forget this as soon as their eyes are not looking at these words.

gedy 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree with anything you've said. Just that calling DHH a white supremacist is an exaggeration. It waters down the meaning, and not sure what's left to describe violent street thugs in discourse, I guess "LiTerAL nAZis"?