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leakycap 4 hours ago

> I wrote a book on Merb and was an active contributor.

It might be a situation where you see it differently because you were involved or benefiting from the way things unfolded

> That said, the Rails vs Merb era was mostly good natured competition [...] wouldn't describe any of it as toxic

Competition can be healthy, Rails vs Merb was anything but. Quotes from Yehuda himself:

••• "I was just so blinded by tribalism that I never even bothered to check how fundamental the disagreements really were."

••• "waging an all-out war against Ruby on Rails from inside of a company that makes its money selling Ruby on Rails deployment is a pretty bad life strategy"

••• "It's so easy for our brains to turn disagreements about priorities into value conflicts. It takes a lot of effort to see past that mistake."

https://yehudakatz.com/2020/02/19/together-the-merb-story/

foysavas 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Engine Yard's management took several strategic missteps over the years. One of them was stifling Merb. The quotes from Yehuda describe his difficulty in making the best of a forced merger.

Ezra's vision for Merb and DHH's vision for Rails were distinct. Both warranted development. Over time, I assume they would have collectively strengthened the Ruby community. It was a mistake for Engine Yard's management to have instead framed it as zero sum and forced a merger.

leakycap 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Your arguments that this was all just normal competition does not stand up to scrutiny

Discussing Engine Yard now does not seem fruitful if you do not address the quotes provided by Katz which refute your own prior comments