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leakycap 6 hours ago

> How has it been “eating itself alive”?

> There's been a ton of that, yes...

What are you saying - because some people got rich off Ruby, it's OK that those things happened?

Clearly not - Ruby will be lucky to have a shadow of the community left after this.

bradgessler 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, I'm saying there's a lot of people who won't even know this happened. Fewer will know that it happened, but they'll view it as a scenario where the ends justify the means.

I'm on the record saying RC did a poor job rolling out these changes and treated the maintainers poorly.

There will be a lot of amazing Rubyists that leave, which is terrible, but it won't be "the shadow of a community left" because there's way too many people who depend on it to feed their families.

leakycap 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> No, I'm saying there's a lot of people who won't even know this happened.

In the world of "I'm sorry to that man" this seems like a given about literally everything.

Not knowing something happened is called being uninformed, and it doesn't change things or make the person right just because they don't know about something that occurred.

> There will be a lot of amazing Rubyists that leave

We agree. Listen, WebObjects still has a somewhat active community. Ruby's community won't be helped by recent events, but recent events happened because the Ruby community has been backstabby for a long time and no one has stopped it because there's too much money to be made in the meantime to care about things like people.

chao- 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Ruby will be lucky to have a shadow of the community left after this.

Maybe? This feels like an extreme statement with too much certainty at this point.