| ▲ | _fat_santa 7 hours ago |
| > Sidekiq withdrew its $250,000/year sponsorship for Ruby Central because they platformed DHH at RailsConf 2025. Honest question: What's the issue with DHH here? What did he do that caused them to pull support because he was platformed at RailsConf? |
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| ▲ | lavela 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "The Ruby community has a DHH problem": https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro... |
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| ▲ | jmcgough 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Tom Stuart gave a really good lightning talk about this a decade ago, which is very respectful and has aged well https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem It's not just about his politics. DHH is reactionary, mean, dismissive of others' opinions. He acts more like a high school bully than a leader. Since then, DHH has gone off the deep end with xenophobic, racist, and transphobic comments. I was drawn to the Ruby community because of its kindness and creativity, with people like why the lucky stiff and Jim Weirich. It is a lot less welcoming when DHH repeatedly uses his platform to say that I shouldn't exist or have equal rights. |
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| ▲ | prepend 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | jmcgough 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I don’t really care if you, or others feel I should exist or not. Or whether they think I should or shouldn’t have rights Yes, but you don't really need to worry, because those things aren't a real threat to you. Imagine if you were a member of a minority group making up 1% of the population, with a government actively persecuting you. | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unfortunately, in the current political climate the stakes are much higher. | |
| ▲ | marcinzm 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Supporting people that want to and are pushing for the government to kill you and your loved ones seems like such an odd thing for someone to do. Not even sure how to describe it. |
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| ▲ | leosanchez 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It is a lot less welcoming when DHH repeatedly uses his platform to say that I shouldn't exist or have equal rights. Can you point to any of his blog posts that says this ? | | |
| ▲ | disiplus 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | He is not stupid enough to say that directly bit it's one google away to find stuff like. I follow him on Twitter and guy is a bully and has opinions about stuff he has 0 knowledge about. https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-social-media-censorship-era-is... | | |
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| ▲ | disiplus 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | There are more Like this one. You don't even have to read between the lines to see what is his attitude. https://world.hey.com/dhh/gender-and-sexuality-alliances-in-... | | |
| ▲ | ecshafer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What percentage of people and parents in the world do you think agree with DHH here? My guess would be around 95%. I dont see any issues with his arguments, that is wholly inappropriate for schools. | |
| ▲ | lemmsjid 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Interesting. Things I think of as quite reasonable, though certainly with counter arguments, are to him fundamentally preposterous and not even worthy of reasonable consideration. My kid goes to a very liberal California school. The main difference between it and my school growing up is that it is no longer acceptable to ostracize or beat up lgbtq kids or kids who are different in other ways. Part of that is because, gasp, the school builds acceptance into the curriculum. I wish I grew up now, it’s such a nicer time to be a weird nerd. | |
| ▲ | liveoneggs 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | the objections shown here seem quite reasonable and, apparently, reflect the will of the parents. Omnicause stuff isn't popular. |
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| ▲ | theptip 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Huh, apparently he is a “white supremacist” for posts like this? https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-waning-days-of-dei-s-dominance... I missed all this drama, it does seem like there is an echo chamber forming over on Bluesky… |
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| ▲ | pfych 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Someone linked an article above that is worth a read - He's said some pretty horrific stuff about minority groups & is echoing discredited sentiment on immigrants and other minorities. It's worth a read. https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro... | |
| ▲ | riffraff 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | He's voicedly MAGA-adjacent, has often written against the evils of multiculturalism and how happy he was about Trump winning the elections. I don't think he's a white supremacist, but it is understandable that some people don't like his ideas. | | |
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| ▲ | vinceguidry 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Ruby community has long had a rift between two types of members, the really nice folks that take after Matz, and techbro assholes like DHH. The former have mostly tolerated the latter creating an ugly toxicity that the community has become known for, and is why I use Ruby, but have not involved myself with it. Zed Shaw, a well-known asshole himself, described it in this piece: https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto DHH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore. |
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| ▲ | bhouston 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > HH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore. But Shopify is also right wing in its executive team, and via these move they appear to be support DHH: https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media... https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co... And yeah, Shopify is going to protect DHH because DHH is on Shopify's board: https://www.shopify.com/news/david-heinemeier-hansson-board | | |
| ▲ | bradly 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Just to add a bit of context here... DHH was added to the Shopify board last year. Shopify also brought in a CTO with very questionable actions and statements during multiple company townhalls and all-hands. He would be making wild statements on stream while VPs would be in the Slack channel trying to defuse and reframe. This was a big reason why I left Shopify last spring. | |
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| ▲ | dismalaf 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Except Matz is aligned with DHH, Tobi and others. I think lots of people confuse "nice" with "supporting every weird American left-wing cause pushed by certain corporations". Keep in mind most of the people who actually run the Ruby ecosystem and drive it forward aren't American, and it's mostly Americans whining about it. Also, people opposing it (Sidekiq, the guys starting "rv", etc...) have a vested financial interest in opposing Rails and rubygems... | | |
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| ▲ | dismalaf 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Probably the fact that DHH introduced Solid Queue to Rails which can replace Sidekiq. Of course they're not going to say that, it'll be some excuse about his lukewarm European politics... |
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| ▲ | jamesgeck0 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I've formed a positive opinion of Parham's character by the way he's conducted himself over the years. And Solid Queue isn't a serious Sidekiq replacement for the types of high volume applications where you'd want a Sidekiq license; I doubt he even sees it as a threat. | | | |
| ▲ | danudey 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also the fact that DHH complained about not wanting to live in London because of how many non-whites there are, praising violent far-right agitators, and repeating debunked racist claims. |
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| ▲ | insane_dreamer 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sure, they don't like DHH. I never much liked him either (too opinionated for my taste), though Rails is a really good thing and honestly put Ruby on the map, and DHH deserves credit for that. But seriously, pull all their funding because of being platformed at RailsConf (_Rails_Conf, not _Ruby_Conf). Seems over-reactionary, and ultimately hurtful to the Ruby community (making them more dependent on Shopify). Update: To be fair, I haven't followed DHH/Rails/Ruby community for the past decade (was very involved ~15 yrs ago), so my views may be outdated. Still I think pulling the funding doesn't help Ruby. |
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| ▲ | madeofpalk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't like DHH (for whatever reason), and I would never want to spend my own money on 'platforming' him. It seems pretty reasonable that someone/company applies discretion to which community events they sponsor. | | |
| ▲ | baobabKoodaa 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure it feels good to pull money as a kneejerk reaction and virtue signalling, but it's still generally a good idea to think through the consequences of your actions. | | |
| ▲ | makeitdouble an hour ago | parent [-] | | We should be thankful a project like Sidekiq sponsored so much money over such a long period. Whatever reason they had to pull out, the blame should lie on the lack of other companies stepping in and keeping some power balance. |
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| ▲ | 827a 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Its especially wild given how their action in pulling funding seems to have been a prime motivator for this power grab: in their attempt to boycott DHH, they quite literally handed him the keys to the kingdom. | | |
| ▲ | evolve2k 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It does imply an option here. For the affected ruby gems core team to strike up a sponsorship agreement and launch a forked ruby gems service. For developers who agree that the original team was treated terribly, it’s a one line code change at the top of our Gemfiles to get behind a new gem repository. | |
| ▲ | makeitdouble 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | A "boycott" assumes voiced opinions, and I don't think we have anything public about why Sidekiq stopped sponsoring. We assume it's linked to DHH because he's an asshole, but that's just our own theories. |
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| ▲ | tennis_80 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He used to, but is now stepping into politics, in a conservative / reactionary way. See: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 | | |
| ▲ | leosanchez 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > That was then. Now, I wouldn't dream of it. London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. I couldn't understand this bit. Why does a Dane care about the ethnic makeup of London ? Is London worse off than the 90s and early 2000s ? He doesn't leave much to charitable interpretation… | |
| ▲ | bluehatbrit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The hubris on display in this article is wild, even for DHH. As a Brit, he's got no idea what he's on about. The bit about "the boats" is just a complete misunderstanding of the facts. If one is not from a country, has no family from that country, and has never lived there - one shouldn't have much of an opinion about what's going on there. To then assume those opinions could be even remotely correct is an arrogance of an astounding proportion. | |
| ▲ | tootie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That post is just plain racism. | | |
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| ▲ | mikemcquaid 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can't tell if someone is "native British" by looking at them. There's records of non-white British citizens with voting rights back to 1749. Are those people's great-great * whatever grandchildren not British if every generation has lived in Britain because you don't think they "look British"? Britain is not and never has been a single ethnic state. It's very hard to not consider someone a racist who thinks so. Tommy Robinson, as supported in this post, was a member of the BNP. The BNP, until 1997, had a policy of forcibly removing all non-white people (including citizens) from the UK. After 1997 (and when Robinson was a member) they moved to a policy of "financially encouraging" non-white people to leave the UK. If you are a member of a party who believes in treating citizens differently based on the colour of their skin: you are a racist. If you think you can identify British citizenship based on the colour of a person's skin: you are a racist. I don't really like throwing the "racist" word around but this is literally as simple as the definition gets. | |
| ▲ | leosanchez 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But why does a Dane care about the ethnic makeup of London ? | | |
| ▲ | AlexandrB 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Same reason I might care about the ethnic makeup of Japan. I like some aspects of Japanese culture and I would hate to see it disappear due to cultural homogenization. I don't want to guess too wildly, but I suspect you also support the rights of indigenous peoples to practice their culture in the former British colonies like Canada or Australia? Why is the idea of wiping out British culture in 2025 OK, but the historical destruction of indigenous cultures - as in Canada's residential schools - treated as a grave injustice similar to genocide? | | |
| ▲ | tootie 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | All cultures evolve. Most of them disappear. They leave influencew behind as they meld. Any modern culture will be recorded very precisely. | |
| ▲ | fwip 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What is this non-sequitur? White people in Britain still have the right to practice their culture as they see fit. You can eat all the beans on toast you want, even if your neighbor is eating curry. | |
| ▲ | leosanchez 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | From the same article. > Recently, a projection that Danes would be a minority in their own country by 2096 caused an enormous stir in Denmark. I can totally understand this point btw. What I don't understand is > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. Can you tell me how has London changed for the worse from '90s and early 2000s to today for a Dane to lose interest in it ? > I don't want to guess too wildly. Please don't. I am a brown dude from a Third World country. I do follow DHH's blog. | |
| ▲ | madeofpalk 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think you should care about the ethnic makeup of Japan. | | |
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| ▲ | msie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wish. Have you read his blog??? | | |
| ▲ | AlexandrB 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I skimmed it and he seems to disagree with some $popular_2025_opinions. I guess that means it's time to run him out of town on a rail. | | |
| ▲ | lbrito 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It might be time for you to refresh your idea of "popular opinions". What was unpopular 10 years ago is very much popular and mainstream today - which is probably why he felt safe enough coming out politically. He didn't have the balls to do it years ago when it would be, hm, uncomfortable. | |
| ▲ | timeon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I guess that means it's time to run him out of town on a rail. Why run him out of the town? When he does not like non-native Brits in London, as Dane, he will probably leave. |
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