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elzbardico 10 hours ago

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tfourb 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You are committing the same fallacy that you are prescribing to others. If rehabilitation is taken seriously and provided the required resources, recidivism is a „statistical minority“.

As with many social issues, the US happens to be very bad at this currently, with recidivism rates double those of the UK, for example. UK prisons are notoriously bad by European standards and they have plenty of violent crime. But criminals are in the vast majority of cases not criminal by nature. Most people want to live a socially conforming life, given half a chance.

elzbardico 8 hours ago | parent [-]

UK prisons are almost as bad as American or Brazilian prisons because UK is almost as unequal as the US or Brazil.

You can rehabilitate folks as much as you wish, most of them will leave and find no job in a society that cares more destroying jobs and disruption, so VCs can make another billion with another stupid SaaS exit than we care about have industry and a healthy lower middle class with social mobility.

tfourb 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What you are writing is demonstrably untrue and you would recognize that if you’d spend even a few minutes researching the actual facts. Rehabilitation works, if done according to established best practices.

ch33zer 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> the sad reality is that the majority of the criminals are not amenable to rehabilitation

What evidence do you have for this?

elzbardico 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I was not born living in a nice place making mid to high six-figures. I lived in places where being shot for a cell phone was always a possibility.

I went to school with people that have been in the revolving doors of the jail system more times than any of us can count.

I won't care looking for stats, but last time I saw them, most inmates in American Prisons are not in their first tour. There are as many people doing time for the sixth time as there are for the first time.

Yeah, the criminal justice system is not perfect, there are people there that shouldn't be there, but liberals have this annoying tendency of believing every sad history criminals are specialists in telling. As a cousin who became a policeman likes to say, there are no guilty people in jail if you ask the inmates.