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odo1242 16 hours ago

Also, Antifa is the name of a political ideology, not any particular organization.

xnx 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly. It's like calling feminism a terror organization (at the risk of giving them the idea).

r721 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reminds me of Russia:

>Russia outlaws ‘international LGBT public movement’ as extremist

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/30/russia-supreme...

>Russia’s top court bans nonexistent ‘Satanist movement’

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-supreme-court-bans-sa...

cloverich 12 hours ago | parent [-]

TBH i feel a lot of what is happening was easily predictable in recent years BUT i did not have "US follows Russia path" in so many words because i felt given our more generally liberal society and economic conditions i couldn't imagine such a path in my head. But it really clicked when i went to listen to the last few podcasts of the recently deceased and realized how it felt precisely like Russian propaganda; now here i am second guessing the risk of things i type when only a few short years ago i bragged that being able to yell f** Obama without concern was the quintissential example of how America was still quite different.

The real struggle is i have true believers and apologists in my own family, and its just so... unreal how unreachable they are. For all the talk of what to do about it, i feel for people who havent really explored the depths to which many reasonably intelligent and reasonably kind people have fallen. And just wandering what if anything will shake them out of it.

ModernMech 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don't remember the people wearing "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" in 2017? That's all I needed to see to realize where we were headed. They would rather live in an oppressive, white, Christian ethnostate like Russia rather than the multicultural pluralistic free society with Democrats.

omnimus 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is fascinating how quickly US got on the Putin path. Trump seems to run the same Putin playbook. For example Russia also had max terms in a row - so this was removed in 2020 before elections (this will happen if Trump is still alive). Yes Russia still has elections but the fanaticized public + vote faking resulted in Puting having 88%.

theshrike79 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Especially when a good bunch of hardline MAGA were alive during the Red Scare where communism and Soviet Union / Russia was bad.

Now they're best buddies exchanging tips on how to oppress minorities. Wtf?

CLPadvocate 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's actually pretty consistent - they knew back then that the entire Red Scare was a complete bullshit, used only for oppression of dissidents - and now they are just using new methods for the same goal.

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pacomerh 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It still blows my mind most people that agree with this post actually don't know what the word means. This is just a catchy word to divide us.

scoofy 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What words mean is actually pretty complicated. When groups of people start co-opting one word as a symbol, rather than having a name that word can easily become a name for that group.

addandsubtract 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have no problem being divided from fascists.

Gigachad 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My observation is it's not even a full ideology. More of just a term and symbology to describe being against fascism.

stogot 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Biden DHS called them “loosely affiliated organizations” because they were underground. Closest analogy might be anonymous or lulz. You can see members show up to protests and carry Antifa flags, in full military gear, causing violence, etc. There are arrest videos on YouTube, and the ATF, DHS, and Florida AG went after some named members back in 2023

http://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrelease/action-against-ant...

Also others have linked to other orgs later in this comments

fufxufxutc 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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