Evidence of his actual political affiliation has come out?

All I’ve seen so far is a million sides harping on one minor point of the existing evidence and using that to claim their political opponents are at fault.

The new meta from the past few shootings appears to be just instantly claiming the shooter is from their political opponents side, and then double down on the claim no matter what happens

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zahlman 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> Evidence of his actual political affiliation has come out?

Yes, assuming Spencer Cox, Utah law enforcement etc. are not lying.

He is said to have been in a relationship with an MtF partner, and to have communicated repeatedly with that partner, showing sympathy for LGBTQ issues in general, alluding to being part of a left-wing support community, and describing Kirk as a "fascist" and "hateful". His mother has stated that he has shifted towards left-wing politics recently, specifically as regards LGBTQ issues. Much was made initially of his "MAGA" father — who turned him in, and there is much evidence of political disagreement between the two (including in the above-mentioned communications). Cox asserted the suspect to be a leftist in an interview with Meet the Press on the 14th (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/utah-gov-spence...).

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lovich 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Those points could also fit a groyper with parents who don’t recognize that subset of right ideology but appears to have no problem with things like cat boy girlfriends, and were in a feud with Kirk in the months prior to this.

There’s bit and pieces here but nothing conclusive so actually yea I kinda do distrust those figures in government coming out and strongly stating it was one of their political enemies.

I don’t think the conservatives had anything to do with Charlie Kirk dying, but I would not be surprised if they had a playbook ready to go for such an event given how strong of claims they were making about the shooter when the evidence at that point in time didn’t exist.

Never waste a good crisis and all that

	▲	zahlman 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Those points could also fit a groyper with parents who don’t recognize that subset of right ideology You really think they would mistake a groyper for a leftist? > I would not be surprised if they had a playbook ready to go for such an event given how strong of claims they were making about the shooter when the evidence at that point in time didn’t exist. "The shooter in a political assassination represents an ideology opposed to the victim and was motivated by a political position opposed to the victim's" should be everyone's prior. It doesn't require a playbook.