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jimbob45 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For anyone not informed, Jones’ exorbitant fines were that way because of his consistently excessive behavior in court and lack of willingness to cooperate. The judge gave him multiple chances. You shouldn’t expect that to happen to anyone else because normal people obey their lawyer when their lawyer tells them to quiet down.

	▲	cogman10 12 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This isn't true. Jones was defaulted before trial in both cases because he wasn't complying with discovery. The defense asked for documents and testimony which his company refused to provide. Documents like the finances for the company (totally normal). You are correct that he was given multiple chances to fix the problem. He'd literally fire his lawyers between almost every deposition so that they couldn't provide the requested documents. But the actual fines came from the jury from the trial. civil cases have 2 parts, are you guilty and if so for how much. Jones lost the "are you guilty" by default and the how much was determined by a jury of his peers after a trial (and accepted by the judge). I think with Jones it's important to get everything straight as he likes to claim that he was silenced and steamrolled. He was neither. He lost that much money because his actions were horrendous.
	▲	tptacek 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		He managed to literally default a billion dollar defamation case, which is really something.

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zahlman 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> A comment which has been flagged to death

... is not an invitation to contribute your own top-level polemic.

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strictnein 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> And no, there's no need for politeness, because the assassination victim was an asshole

I mean, did you see what he was wearing? He definitely had it coming.

I wasn't a fan of his, but if your source about what Charlie Kirk was out there doing and saying is The Nation of all places, you're not exactly informed on the topic.

I collect propaganda videos on Instagram. Here's a couple examples that were floating around recently: Seeing a lot of hate for a trans person here? https://www.instagram.com/p/DOfU33FDEwp/

Also, weird for the supposed "Christian Nationalist" to be arguing against... Christian Nationalism, no? https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlpE-rEWFZ/

	▲	netsharc 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You're rebuttal is basically: "I was at 3000m above sea level once and water boiled there at 90C, so if you say water boils at 100C, that's wrong!"
	▲	foldr 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		He also deadnamed an individual trans person in public and said that they were an abomination to God (0:31): https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1701259614077989121 So it's nice that he managed to be superficially polite to one trans person once (while not actually saying anything of substance except that they should just stop being trans), but let's not pretend that he had any kind of sympathetic view of trans people. Overall, his attitude to the 'alphabet mafia' reminds me rather a lot of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQf5jL3a4iU