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self_awareness 12 hours ago

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lokar 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US constitution generally protects the right to make false statements, intentionally or not, in all but a few situations.

self_awareness 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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tomrod 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it unlikely any of this applies, since Kimmel is nominally a comedian.

nerpderp82 11 hours ago | parent [-]

We have to hold comedians to highest possible journalistic standard while allowing Fox News to be entertainment. This country runs on double standards.

lokar 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And that does not cover what happened here. Not even close.

kemayo 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't see how this is related, because "will cause substantial public harm" doesn't appear to apply in any way.

arp242 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you want to ban saying something false then you need to start with arresting everyone who loudly and aggressively claimed that the murdered of the Democratic politicians in Minnesota was a far-left extremist and all of that. People are still claiming this, I believe.

Or maybe start with all the people who kept on claiming that migrants are eating people's cats and dogs.

etc. etc. etc. I can go on and on.

Applying the most strictest of strictest interpretation of the law for your enemies while being exceedingly lax with the law for your friends is one if the key hallmarks of authoritarianism.

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quickthrowman 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can say basically whatever you want in the United States, with few exceptions.

‘Inciting imminent lawlessness’ aka starting a riot is not protected speech, making threats against the US President is also illegal. There might be other items of speech that are forbidden that I am not remembering.

You can be sued for defamation, but it’s very hard to prove as you must prove the speaker knew what they were saying was false, which is hard to prove.

But lies? You can lie all you want as a private citizen and the government cannot stop you.

arp242 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's not how law works in most places. Even in most European countries with more expansive defamation laws merely saying false things as such is not against the law. And it wasn't really defaming anyone, so none of that applies in the first place.

self_awareness 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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lokar 11 hours ago | parent [-]

But not American press laws