| ▲ | bilbo0s 9 hours ago |
| Americans may end up in a situation where they have some $1000-2000 device at home with an open Chinese model running on it Wouldn't worry about that, I'm pretty sure the government is going to ban running Chinese tech in this space sooner or later. And we won't even be able to download it. Not saying any of the bans will make any kind of sense, but I'm pretty sure they're gonna say this is a "strategic" space. And everything else will follow from there. Download Chinese models while you can. |
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| ▲ | Sanzig 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| When DeepSeek first hit the news, an American senator proposed adding it to ITAR so they could send people to prison for using it. Didn't pass, thankfully. |
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| ▲ | thoroughburro 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | If it does in the future, do we just hope it won’t be retroactive? Is this water boiling yet? | | |
| ▲ | dingnuts 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | ex post facto law is explicitly banned in the US Constitution | | |
| ▲ | Light_Hope 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | For criminal concerns regarding retroactive ITAR additions, yes. However, significant civil financial penalties if congress so wished could still be constitutional as the ex post facto clause has been held to apply exclusively to criminal matters starting in Calder v. Bull [1]. [1] https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/3us386 | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Dogs can't play basketball, either, but we've sure been getting dunked on a lot lately. | | |
| ▲ | jondwillis 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | History is littered with unconstitutional, enforced laws, as well. Watched a lot of Ken Burns docs this weekend while sick. “The West” has quite a few examples. |
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| ▲ | whimsicalism 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| government hardly has the capacity to ban foreign weights |
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| ▲ | quotemstr 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The danger is that lawmakers, confused about the difference between foreign weights and foreign APIs, accidentally ban both. | | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | There will be no confusion whatsoever, and no accidents. They don't write those bills themselves. Whatever a given bill does is precisely what its authors, who are almost never elected by any constituency on Earth, intend for it to do. |
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| ▲ | wkat4242 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Eh this is the internet. There's always a way. They couldn't ban piracy either. |
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