I get you are outraged. It hurts to hear things you dislike, but please, simply go talk to a store owner in CA. Ask them the last time they bothered to call police for shoplifting. Sit down. Think what statistics would show when people GIVE UP on law enforcement.

Or, simply google it, check it on reddit, facebook, nextdoor. It is well understood that police in CA do not respond to thefts and do not care about them. It is internalized to point that nobody bothers to call.

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stickfigure 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I get that you listen to fact-free news. But violent crime statistics don't lie and they show that you're much more likely to be victimized in a red state.

I live in California and no, it is not "well understood" that police do not care about thefts. I watched police catch shoplifters right in the middle of SF. As always, cities full of people aren't perfect, but don't imagine for a second that red states have it better.

Tell me, where do you live? I'd like to know what your direct experience of California is.

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mothballed an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If you look at say homicide rate it looks to matches closer to where black people are than by political party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/In...

The lowest or next to lowest is New Hampshire.... which is a red state with constitutional carry, very few gun restrictions, no background checks in private transfers, and one of the whitest states in the union next to Vermont (which I think is close to if not #2). NH is red and VT is blue IIRC.

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dmitrygr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Tell me, where do you live? I'd like to know what your direct experience of California is.

5 years in mountain view, CA; 1 in santa calara, CA; 4 more in mountain view, CA with frequent trips into SF proper; 1 in SF proper; 4 more in mountain view, CA. Eventually I got tired of broken car windows and police who never came to investigate. Got tired of hoboes jumping at me with knives and police not responding to calls when i reported it. I left. So the last 3 years - Austin, TX

And before you try to claim this is bullshit, i still own a house in CA in MTV and public records easily prove that and the rest of locations too.

That's the funniest/saddest part about your comment - i do not need to listen to any "fact-free news" I have the scar from the hobo knife and the voice recordings of police saying "so what do you want us to do? go file a report online, give it to your insurance". It took a while after leaving to finally understand how much I was simply putting up with and considered "part of modern life". The Stockholm Syndrome took a year or so to wear off. Now, when forced to go back to norcal, I notice it a lot more.

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MisterTea 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> GIVE UP on law enforcement.

From my point of view law enforcement gave up.