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catigula 4 days ago

Can we get some laws to force these companies to start subsidizing the consumer grids they're pummeling?

The electric bills are getting out of hand.

vmg12 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

They would build their own power lines / grid if they could.

bananapub 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

... why? the current (heh) situation is that they do these big announcements and then local/state governments around the US get in a bidding war to try to shift costs from the datacenter operator on to their own citizens, in addition to offloading all of the capex.

catigula 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No thanks, I'll just take subsidies to my bill.

vmg12 4 days ago | parent [-]

Well, I suggest you go into politics and do something about it rather than be pointlessly smug on the internet.

If you're actually interested, the reason it's important to build out the grid even more instead of "subsidizing" is because the current grid can't handle renewables well which we need to improve if we want to use sustainable energy.

catigula 4 days ago | parent [-]

ok

2OEH8eoCRo0 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What will happen if/when the AI bubble pops and there is far more grid capacity than demand? Power plant bailouts?

davis 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Load growth for the last 15 years has been very small but load growth going forward is expected to rise due to electrification of all things to decarbonize the economy. This means home heating, electrical cars, heavy industries, obviously data centers and the list goes on. So even if we have more grid capacity than demand (this seems unlikely), it will be used before too long.

JCM9 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Will just make capacity available for electrification of other infrastructure like heat pumps, electric cars, and so on. Lots of other folks would happily buy that power. The whole AI bubble is just driving up electricity pricing for everyone else at the moment.