| ▲ | TheRealGL 4 days ago |
| Did I miss the part where they mention the 10 large nuclear plants needed to power this new operation? Where's all the power coming from for this? |
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| ▲ | nutjob2 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Also, the fact they they announce not how much computing power they are going to deploy but rather how much electricity it's going to use (as if power usage is a useful measurement of processing power) is kind of gross. "Good news everybody, your power bills are going up and your creaking, chronically underfunded infrastructure is even closer to collapse!" |
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| ▲ | HDThoreaun 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Build this thing in the middle of the desert and you would need around 100 sq mile of solar panels + a fuck load of batteries for it to be energy independent. The solar farm would be around $10 billion which is probably far less than the gpus cost |
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| ▲ | xnx 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Dissipating 10GW of heat is also a challenge in a sunny, hot, dry environment. | |
| ▲ | udkl 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | $10 billion is small change compare to the estimated all-inclusive cost of $10 billion for EACH 500MW data center ... $200 billion for 10GW. | |
| ▲ | boringg 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Won't get you the necessary 4 9's uptime and energy sadly. Im still 100% for this -- but need another model for energy delivery. | |
| ▲ | newyankee 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 100 sq km should suffice | |
| ▲ | ecshafer 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | bryanlarsen 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | 100 square miles is small in the American southwest. And a solar farm would disrupt the ecosystem much less than many other land uses. Adding shade and cover will benefit many species. | | |
| ▲ | ecshafer 4 days ago | parent [-] | | A few nuclear power plants have a much smaller environmental impact. | | |
| ▲ | bryanlarsen 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Burning 10GW of fossil fuels for 20 years while waiting for the nuclear plants to finish building will do far more damage to the environment than 100 square miles of shade in the desert. |
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| ▲ | HDThoreaun 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is a man's world | |
| ▲ | retr0rocket 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [dead] | |
| ▲ | Aeolun 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | On sand? | |
| ▲ | jonfromsf 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Environmentalists are just against progress. A few desert species going extinct is not a big deal. It's an arid wasteland. When we eventually terraform it (with desalinated water from solar / fusion) those species are going to die out anyway. | | |
| ▲ | samtp 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Environmentalists are just against progress Just pure anti-life on earth talk | |
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| ▲ | hoosieree 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also water. You will be rationed, OpenAI will not. https://www.newstarget.com/2025-08-02-texas-ai-data-centers-... |
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| ▲ | nitwit005 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I assumed this headline was not aimed at the public, but at some utility they want to convince to expand capacity. Otherwise, bragging about future power consumption seems a bit perplexing. |
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| ▲ | Ianjit 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Or to assuage investors participating in the OpenAI secondary on the issue of cash burn. |
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| ▲ | catigula 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Consumer electric grids. |
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| ▲ | davis 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Exactly this. This is essentially a new consumer tax in your electrical bill. The buildout of the electrical grid is being put on consumers essentially as a monthly tax with the increase in electrical costs. Everyone in the country is paying for the grid infrastructure to power these data centers owned by trillion dollar companies who aren't paying for their needs. | |
| ▲ | delfinom 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yep. Consumers are screwed and $500/month electric bills are coming for the average consumer within a year or two. We do not have the electricity available for this. | | |
| ▲ | leptons 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I'm pretty average, living in a small home, and my electric bill is already >$500/mo in the summer, and that's with the A/C set at 76F during the day. | | |
| ▲ | thorncorona 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Where do you live? How old is your house? 500 is insane. | | |
| ▲ | catigula 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I don't expect him to tell you where he lives but my bill EXPLODED recently due to what I now know is data center demand. |
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| ▲ | t0mas88 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | How many kWh is that? At those amounts solar panels seem like a no-brainer business case? |
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