| ▲ | motorest 3 days ago |
| I see what you mean, and I am divided on the issue. On one hand, I don't think it's fair to have AI companies to freely scrape the world without fairly compensating content producers. On the other hand, adding more gatekeepers to the web ends up killing it. This feels like a lose-lose situation. |
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| ▲ | switzer 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Cloudflare is most active in pushing standards, and highlighting the issue of bots scraping web pages for free. That said, the other major CDNs (e.g. Akamai, Fastly) also have Bot Management functionality, so hopefully this is not a gatekeeping scenario, more of a standards-building scenario. |
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| ▲ | swed420 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In some positive news today, Cloudflare is sponsoring the Ladybird browser effort: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45332860 That's not nothing. |
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| ▲ | AuthAuth 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Its a token gesture. Ladybird is not a serious disruption. | | |
| ▲ | swed420 2 days ago | parent [-] | | How could you be so confident about such a thing? Are you implying it's going to fail in its goal as a competing browser, or that the competition is somehow irrelevant in a world that's forced to be slave to Google/Apple? | | |
| ▲ | AuthAuth an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm implying that Ladybird will never grow to the size where it will have any influence on the internet. So this donation is a token gesture to making things better and will be unlikely to change anything. I dont think Ladybird will ever surpass Firefox and to have any impact it would need to be at least as popular as firefox. |
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| ▲ | nicce 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Likely related on getting influece in order to enforce the gatekeeping standards, unfortunately. | | |
| ▲ | swed420 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Even if you end up being right, which is not outside of the realm of possibility, it's still huge to get a boost on breaking the browser duopoly while ironing out longstanding issues with web standards. |
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| ▲ | CrulesAll 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That feels like a bog basic false choice fallacy. |
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| ▲ | motorest 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > That feels like a bog basic false choice fallacy. Only if you somehow believe you have a choice, or even a say. |
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| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That is a lot of hands... Are you AI generated? lol =3 |
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| ▲ | atmosx 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > On the other hand, adding more gatekeepers to the web ends up killing it. LOL, what? |
