That response ignores the fact that Valve isn't in the business of preventing you from playing your games on niche operating systems but Cloudflare is in the business of blocking non-standard browsers. If Cloudflare truly wants to prevent a Google/Apple web duopoly the most effective thing they can do is to stop blocking alternatives or even just browser-configurations that are Google-hostile.

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zaphar 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I have never seen credible evidence that this is what Cloudflare sees as their business. They fundamentally don't care what browser the user is using. What they care about are the traffic patterns of users and preventing their customers from getting hit by bots, spam, and other malicious traffic. The fact that some browsers that look like malicious traffic is not something they can control or reasonably be held responsible for.

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zem 4 days ago | parent [-]

surely they can be held responsible - they are the ones defining whatever heuristics cause traffic to be classed as malicious!

	▲	zaphar 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		no?

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xmprt 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Valve isn't in the business of preventing you from playing your games on niche operating systems

Getting your Steam library to work on Linux before it got Valve's blessing with Proton wasn't a great experience. If they wanted to, they could have easily decided to block games from running on Linux and gave some statement about preventing piracy and protecting users from malware.

I'm optimistic that this investment means we'll see more open standards and large browser makers being forced to collaborate and create simpler standards without compromising security.

	▲	account42 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Getting your Steam library to work on Linux before it got Valve's blessing with Proton wasn't a great experience. There weren't any real roadblocks for that caused by Valve. And it definitely wasn't as hard as you're implying. > If they wanted to, they could have easily decided to block games from running on Linux and gave some statement about preventing piracy and protecting users from malware. They could have just like any software developer could but they didn't. They also didn't block the Steam for Linux client from running on unapproved distributions or even FreeBSD.
	▲	thewebguyd 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		They at least still put out a native Linux client, even if there weren't that many native Linux games. That at least demonstrated, to some extant, that Valve doesn't care where you run your games, as long as you buy them on Steam.