What about old PCs? I inherently do not trust my phone.

You can read the article you're replying on. If the device uses the internet, chances are they're gonna be able to listen in.

	▲	johnisgood 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That is way different from client-side [...] from applications though. I thought this was the case.

fsflover 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can trust GNU/Linux phones though (Librem 5 and Pinephone).