This sounds like the so-called "modern standby" (S0 vs S3, if I remember correctly). I bought a thinkpad a while back with "modern standby" and the thing wouldn't last the night suspended, and would often wake me up with its fans howling and end up being very, very hot while suspended. I disabled "modern standby" in the BIOS and it was back to sleeping for weeks without losing charge. I have no idea if that's what's going on with Framework laptops, but "modern standby" is one of the dumbest changes I've ever seen in PC hardware. To my understanding it's to make laptops behave more like phones, but I've never experienced any meaningful difference in resume behavior between S0 and S3 suspend.

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Aurornis 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The standby issues with Framework laptops (at least the early ones, I don’t know about recent developments) was a well known issue.

I recommended Framework to someone looking for a laptop a while ago and they were bit by the standby battery drain issue. I felt bad having recommended it to them because I assumed such a basic issue would have been addressed in a laptop that was so highly regarded.

	▲	maverwa 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Some of the issues have been addressed. For example, iirc, there was a bug where pulling out the power plug while the lid was closed would trigger the device to wake up. Some other issues remain. Largest I am aware of is independent from the hardware, but an issue with suspend-to-disk & kernel lockdown, which prevents deep sleep.

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ZuLuuuuuu 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The idea behind modern stanby is a good one, when it is implemented correctly (like how Macbooks do it). Unfortunately most PCs have a terrible implementation and instead get hot and drain the battery overnight.

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stephen_g 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I had* an 11th Gen Intel NUC that couldn’t sleep at all for something like a year due to EFI bugs… They finally did eventually fix the regression but really, it’s just incredible - if one company should be able to do EFI right it’s Intel!

I’m not sure if this was related to “modern standby” (it was around that time if I recall) but that hasn’t really helped anything. This is a desktop so why they insist on deprecating real standby for everything is beyond me…

* I actually still have it but it became my home server, so now doesn’t ever need to standby, luckily.