How about we compare it with something more realistic? Like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON. Since 1971, the 5 eyes countries have been spying on people en masse and scanning communications.

You probably don't like the comparission because you want to be an alarmist who is acting like this is new. All the fears you have, have literally been proven to be...

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collinmcnulty 7 hours ago | parent [-]

... well founded and spurred the widespread adoption of end to end encryption?

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that_guy_iain 7 hours ago | parent [-]

No, it didn't. It took decades for that to happen.

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collinmcnulty 7 hours ago | parent [-]

These programs really entered the public consciousness with the Snowden leaks in 2013. Signal was released in 2014.

	▲	that_guy_iain 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I only mentioned one program. A program that is literally comparable because it's literally what is being replaced. That program has been public knowledge in media such as TV shows and movies for decades. So when we're fear-mongering, we should only compare with that, and we should see what effects it had and the nonsense being used for fear-mongering. Also, Signal was released not because of end-to-end encryption but because the founder sold WhatsApp and wasn't happy with the direction.