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HighGoldstein 10 hours ago

> The problem, of course, is that it's not possible. But for those politicians, cryptography is pretty much magic. Why wouldn't it be possible?

Few, if any, politicians are nuclear physicists, and I'd argue nuclear physics is far more complex than cryptography, yet I haven't seen any of them ask the weapons industry to manufacture a nuke for just the bad guys.

Let's not attribute blatant malice to stupidity. People in these positions have the resources and advisors to know exactly what the consequences will be.

palata 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I'd argue nuclear physics is far more complex than cryptography

We're not talking about "being able to do it" but "being able to understand what it can do". Nuclear weapons are a lot easier to grasp than cryptography in that sense: it is a thing that explodes. It is absolutely obvious to everybody that a bomb destroys whatever is in the vicinity.

> Let's not attribute blatant malice to stupidity. People in these positions [...]

It's not people in these positions: the vast majority of the population doesn't understand the limits of cryptography.

> have the resources and advisors to know exactly what the consequences will be.

Seems to me like you haven't been in contact with lobbies and expert advisors. Many times, politicians will have to ask experts from the industry. They would not contact an average engineer for advice, but rather the company itself. If there is money to be made, the CEO or some executive will give their advice. This advice is systematically beneficial for the company. It's not necessarily malice: a CEO has to believe in what they are doing, even if it is objectively bad for society.

It is very hard to find unbiased experts to help you forge policies.

martin-t 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I say stupidity should be punished the same way as incompetence. Exactly to stop malicious people from faking incompetence to avoid punishment.

And yes, this is an attack on basic human freedoms and should be punished, not just prevented.

palata 10 hours ago | parent [-]

This is an interesting comment, because you are making exactly the same mistake as those politicians:

- They think it's easy to just ask engineers to magically make safe backdoors.

- You think it's always easy to know what is right and what is wrong. "We should just punish those who harm society". Sure, we should! And we should have safe backdoors!